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What kind of joinery are those cleats on the lid? - Cooler - 04-26-2016

Take a look at this photo:

http://enews.thosmoser.com/public/?q=pre...A.Vx-HIA.BfR3bQ

The lid has two cleats apparently screwed in place. I would think that fastening it would tear the lid apart due to seasonal movement.

What do you think? Unless the top is veneer over some sort of substrate like plywood or particle board. But at $5,200.00 I would expect solid lumber.


Re: What kind of joinery are those cleats on the lid? - cams2705 - 04-26-2016

My guess is that only one of the screws in each of the cleats is a perfect hole while the remaining two have been elongated to allow for seasonal movement.


Re: What kind of joinery are those cleats on the lid? - TucsonLawrence - 04-26-2016

They are "cleats" and are used to help keep a wide wood surface flat. No glue is used (this is important) to hold them on

When designed and fastened properly they allow the wood to move (often through elongated holes for the screws which allow "slipping" but not cupping of the wood away from the cleat)

I guess an article from FWW is better than a thousand words- and the second part here explains it well
https://www.finewoodworking.com/media/TabletopsFlat.pdf

Hope this helps (and hope posting this link isn't a no-no)

Lawrence


Re: What kind of joinery are those cleats on the lid? - Admiral - 04-26-2016

I would bet a Benjamin its solid wood, they make nice stuff for a production shop in the US. Its a proper technique, as already noted, and when well done it is a long term benefit to the piece.


Re: What kind of joinery are those cleats on the lid? - Wipedout - 04-26-2016

Ive done that technique a bunch of times - no issues at all over the years

Some blanket chest and even my kegerator I used this technique


Re: What kind of joinery are those cleats on the lid? - AHill - 04-26-2016

Cooler said:


What do you think? Unless the top is veneer over some sort of substrate like plywood or particle board. But at $5,200.00 I would expect solid lumber.




All Moser furniture is solid wood. Usually cherry, but sometimes black walnut like your link shows. They grow their own cherry in PA. Finish is BLO followed by wax. Nothing fancy.