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RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - JGrout - 10-22-2017 (10-22-2017, 11:41 AM)TDKPE Wrote: The specs say it has a 21A FLC motor, which sounds like it's Asia-sourced. High for a 3 hp, like many Grizzly machines are. My 3 hp Unisaw has a 12.4A Marathon motor, which is low but real. I would have to open up my planer to look at the name plate to see the FLA . I do know however that the planer starter system has a variable amperage draw adjustment and mine is set @ 16A Been like this since the first one in the shop I managed in 1994 without an issue ever, and since then in my own shop since 2003 We routinely ran 10K BF in a quarter or more and since on my own I do put the BF to mine regularly. Also my planer has a helical head so even that has not affected it RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - TDKPE - 10-22-2017 (10-22-2017, 06:51 PM)JGrout Wrote: I would have to open up my planer to look at the name plate to see the FLA . I do know however that the planer starter system has a variable amperage draw adjustment and mine is set @ 16A Been like this since the first one in the shop I managed in 1994 without an issue ever, and since then in my own shop since 2003 We routinely ran 10K BF in a quarter or more and since on my own I do put the BF to mine regularly. Also my planer has a helical head so even that has not affected it Thanks for the info. I suspect earlier units used the ubiquitous Baldor L3606, which had a FLA somewhere around 14.5-15.5A. The EL3606 had a higher efficiency and therefore lower FLA. That was one of the selling points of PM (among many) - they used Baldor motors. Don't know what they're using now, but with that high FLA figure, it sounds like its's Asia sourced. RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - JGrout - 10-22-2017 (10-22-2017, 08:21 PM)TDKPE Wrote: Thanks for the info. I suspect earlier units used the ubiquitous Baldor L3606, which had a FLA somewhere around 14.5-15.5A. The EL3606 had a higher efficiency and therefore lower FLA. That was one of the selling points of PM (among many) - they used Baldor motors. Don't know what they're using now, but with that high FLA figure, it sounds like its's Asia sourced. I know my present PM is from Taiwan, I will just have to open it up and look at the plate I still contend that something is not right for it to just pop a breaker as soon as it is powered something is not right for that to happen It may be the motor but it would not be the first place I would be looking RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - Brian in sunny FL - 10-23-2017 Is there a chance something else is on the circuit? RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - 32ojdidit - 10-23-2017 Thanks guys for the help. Here is the latest. I took another look at my breaker box and discovered a breaker that was 30a for my compressor. The outlet for the compressor is set up on an outlet that has the same plug style as the 220v 20A. So it was as simple as unplugging the compressor and plugging in the planer to that outlet. That's the good news. The bad news is when the planer starts up it makes a bit of a clunking noise on the start. After it starts to run everything sounds fine and smooth. I have an electrical engineer friend that is coming by tonight to check it out to see if this noise is out of the ordinary for this motor. Thanks again of the help. Ill let you all know of the prognosis...I can tell every one will be waiting with baited breath for the outcome of this cliffhanger . RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - OldGuyDrummer - 10-23-2017 [quote pid='7541637' dateline='1508777364'] You say a PM 15" planer. Is it the PM 15" thickness planer with the 3hp motor (15A) or the PM15 Planer/molder that has a 5HP motor. The 3 hp motor should run fine on the 20A but may have issues during the startup. The 5 hp motor will most likely have to be on a 30A circuit breaker. Circuit breakers in commercial panels can handle the larger starting current of motor loads than circuit breakers in residential load centers. If it is an existing breaker that is really old you may still want to replace it even if it is a 3 hp motor on the 20amp circuit breaker. Overcurrent protection sizing can be set a lot higher for dedicated circuits serving motors due to nuisance tripping on startup, which is why Powermatic typically recommends a higher breaker size. [/quote] RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - oakey - 10-23-2017 I use one of those planers often it realy ratlles on startup It just starts so abruptly that it really makes a bang been that way since new RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - EightFingers - 10-23-2017 My 20” PM does that too, starts up with a bang and full speed right away. Been that way since I bought it new 10 years ago. Still works, just wish it spool up a gradually. Doesn’t help the o.p., but mine had to be plugged into a 30amp circuit since it uses a 5hp motor. RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - EdL - 10-23-2017 Start up on mine rattles the sheet metal motor cover.....never really noticed it as the dc is started first. Ed RE: Powermatic planer 15" 250v 30a setup - JGrout - 10-23-2017 nameplate on my planer |