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glue up help - DarrellC - 03-12-2020
Building this quilt case. Not sure how to glue up the side pieces, since the angle pieces are mainly end-grain. looking for suggestions. thought about biscuits, splines or just glue. clamping will be a problem also.
https://read.amazon.com/kp/kshare?asin=B00TQIR21W&id=bv-McayPR6OyH9ASAqMwGg&reshareId=X3YWH7JTFESH213WN83N&reshareChannel=system
RE: glue up help - brianwelch - 03-12-2020
Mortise and tenon? Not much different than a cabinet door, the way I see it...
Looks like a fun build...
RE: glue up help - Cooler - 03-12-2020
I guess I would glue the two uprights and the bottom, with a spacer at the top to keep everything square. Wait for it to dry and then glue the top.
I have a Festool table top clone. It would allow me to clamp the three sided assembly in place and then I would use wedges to clamp the top piece.
Personally, I would add two dowels to all the joints and use a micro pinner to lock the dowels. No clamps.
RE: glue up help - mike4244 - 03-12-2020
(03-12-2020, 09:52 AM)DarrellC Wrote: Building this quilt case. Not sure how to glue up the side pieces, since the angle pieces are mainly end-grain. looking for suggestions. thought about biscuits, splines or just glue. clamping will be a problem also.
https://read.amazon.com/kp/kshare?asin=B00TQIR21W&id=bv-McayPR6OyH9ASAqMwGg&reshareId=X3YWH7JTFESH213WN83N&reshareChannel=system
Biscuits and hot hide glue. The biscuits will help to align parts. If you use hot hide glue then the parts can held together til the glue cools.
Usually less than 1 minute. No clamps, glue is reversible if needed. This is the same glue and method that was originally used for indoor furniture, etc. Will reach full strength by the following day.
You need the glue flakes an old crockpot and a candy thermometer if the crockpot is not equipped with one. I bought a small crockpot at Target $10 or so . removed the glass top and made an MDF top so I could bore a hole for the thermometer and a slot for a brush. I also use a glass jar that is weighted down so the crockpot need not be cleaned. Only water goes in the pot . I epoxied a piece of round steel 1/2" thick to the jar , otherwise the water in the pot will make the jar rise. Electric glue pots are nice but expensive unless you use this glue often.
mike
RE: glue up help - jteneyck - 03-12-2020
I'd use loose tenons because my horizontal router mortiser makes cutting the mortises an easy proposition. If I didn't have that I'd probably use bridle joints, or butt glue them and then add splines.
John
RE: glue up help - GeeDub - 03-13-2020
Take a look at a book or article on joinery. All of those intersections can be handled by a variety of joinery methods as mentioned above. Deciding which ones you are going to use before you start making sawdust will help raise your level of success.
RE: glue up help - handi - 03-14-2020
Either bridal joint, or butt joints with splines.
Bridal joints may be the strongest in this case. The angles make them a bit harder to cut, but not terribly challenging.
RE: glue up help - srv52761 - 03-14-2020
It looks like you were not considering the classic furniture joints.
If you make one little modification you can do it all without any of the typical joints, and reasonable strength.
On the trapezoidal side frames that picture has the rails going the whole length of the top. That leaves the end grain of the stiles to join with the edge grain of the rail; then the end grain of the rail to the face grain of the front and rear frames.
Extend the stile all the way up and have the rail butt between them.
You still have end grain to edge grain, but now you will also have that dowel holder as an entire glue surface the width of your rail to reinforce it with both glue and countersunk screws or dowels.
Then the front and rear frames will be glued face grain to edge grain with plugged countersunk trim screws to reinforce it, much more holding strength screwing into edge than end grain.
Edit: my apologies, that still leaves that (glass?) top. Half lap joint might be the easiest.
RE: glue up help - Gary G™ - 03-15-2020
Did you buy it or just look at the picture?
Does the article not tell you which joinery to use?
I just looked at the picture. IIWM, I’d use M&T joinery.
RE: glue up help - rwe2156 - 03-16-2020
For me, the rear could be as easy as long screws.
On the front joint an angled mortise and tenon. On all the rest, M/T PINNED!.