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Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - Wild Turkey - 08-19-2020
I can get KD WO locally -- 4/4 $4.75 and 8/4 $6.65
Considering the quality etc of current treated wooc I'm wondering if WO would be better if I'm looking at a 20-year life-span?
I'll be using powder coated square metal balusters screwed to the rails, looking at about 60' total for the project.
Which will have less maintenance?
Thanks
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - jteneyck - 08-19-2020
IMO pressure treated will be easier to maintain and last at least 20 years. WO is rot resistant but loves to turn gray/black with mold unless you keep it clean and treated with some sort of coating. When it weathers it tends to get rough, too; not something I'd want in a handrail.
John
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - Bill Wilson - 08-19-2020
I'm developing a deep dislike for just about anything PT these days. Much of the time, the wood becomes unusable shortly after you bring it home, unless you immediately screw/nail/bolt it down tight. The treatment used now isn't nearly as effective as the old stuff, IMHO. Yes, I know it's supposed to be less toxic.
UV rays are the worst enemy of any lumber that isn't in direct & constant contact with water and/or the ground. I don't know if white oak is your best option or not, but if it is going to be exposed to much UV, you are going to have to paint/coat it with something, regardless what you use, or it's going to look terrible in a few, short years. And that includes PT, AFAIC.
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - Rob Young - 08-19-2020
Can man-made materials such as Trex be had in sizes suitable for handrails? I know that Trex sells matching handrail systems for their deck products but those may not be suitable for the OP's project. For the most part, the man-made deck materials can be worked and machined with the usual tools so maybe an option?
And if you are borrowing your neighbor's tools, consider Ipe.
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - fredhargis - 08-19-2020
PT won't have a problem lasting 20 years (neither will WO), so choose following your gut. I suspect there will be about the same maintenance depending on how you want it to look.
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - overland - 08-19-2020
To me this is an easy choice: I've used white oak on a park bench in our side yard to replace some of the slats. It works fine and will last a long time. I don't finish it; I just let it weather as is. In any case I would much rather use a local wood than something treated.
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - Tony Z - 08-19-2020
In North Central PA, the pressure treated quality is less than white oak. I have 5/4 PT deck boards, less than a decade old, that needed replaced. On the other hand, I have some side tables, on the deck, made from WO that look just fine, weathered "as is".
Our PT is available from a big box store and a local lumber yard: no difference is quality.
For me, I'd go with white oak.
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - Stwood_ - 08-20-2020
White Oak will turn gray and weather just fine.
How long has it lasted as siding on old barns.......
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - jteneyck - 08-21-2020
(08-20-2020, 08:42 PM)Stwood_ Wrote: White Oak will turn gray and weather just fine.
How long has it lasted as siding on old barns.......
I'm not arguing the longevity of white oak, but vertical orientation lasts a lot longer than horizontal. Pine and hemlock last a really long time as barn siding.
John
RE: Deck railings -- treated or White Oak? - Stwood_ - 08-21-2020
All the old county bridges that are long gone now due to heavier traffic, used 3" white oak for planking.
Rain, snow, rocks, dirt......abused for 50-75? years