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Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-17-2020
Seems I have a nice supply of thin Aromatic Red Cedar slats.....had to buy a carton of the stuff....to get 4 slats for the bottom of a Blanket Chest project.....Which left a big stack of stuff like this....
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Thought about those small souvenir boxes places are always trying to sell.....Thought maybe I'd try a few..
First attempt....after the tongue and grooves were ripped off...was made using finger/box joints...
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Dry fit....decided to glue the top and bottom in place....after things were cleaned up..
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And a marking gauge run around...
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So I could slice off the lid..
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Plane away the saw marks...try some way too big hinges...
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And, of course the last screw used here, split the wood....added a latch, too..no splits there, though...
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And a handle on each end...
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needed a brush to apply a coat of varnish.....
And a lot of "issues" with the finger joints...oops
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Decided the next versions will use ...dovetails...
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Stay tuned...
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-17-2020
Cedar Box #2...
Was out of practice doing them dovetails....even thought a scrollsaw could help...
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Pins first, by hand....tails by scrollsaw....well, it was just a thought....Pins on one corner were cut backwards....so that mess was sawn off...
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back to Olde School...
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Interesting fact...that is an older version of the Stanley Bevel Gauge....the angled end matches the angle of the dovetails I was doing....the newer versions are too...pointy
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Made layouts a lot easier. Was finally able to get this glued up..
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let it sit a day....then clean and square it up...
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And slice the lid off....block plane to remove the saw marks...so the lid will sit a bit better than Version 1 did...
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Corners didn't look too bad, either...
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Was out of hinges, latches and handles...Road Trip to Hobby Lobby yesterday....$14 and change...and no wrecks in the snow..
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Should last a few boxes. It was cheaper for me to just drive up there, than to pay for them to ship the parts to me...called being FRUGAL, not cheap...
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I also remembered to pick up some brushes, while out & about.....
Wondering about a tray of some kind.....splayed out sides...handle down the middle? Or..no handle? Tray bottom a glued up affair? Dovetails on the corners?
Have plenty of stock to work from....carton is sold as Closet Liner.....15 sq ft of 1/4" T&G 4" wide, random length.....smooth one side...$30....
So....maybe a post about working with ( or, around) this stuff?
stay tuned...
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - Laid-Back - 12-17-2020
Noticed the angle on the old bevel square but didn't think about it. Good observation. Working with thin woods give me fits, guess I have to learn not to be so heavy hanged
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-17-2020
Loaded up a box, and headed to the shop...
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Took a couple trips...Box #1....Camera....Brushes....I think I got everything..
Laid out where the hinges will go..
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To be followed by another...
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Then, since the hinges were out...removed the huge clunky ones from Box #1...and used the smaller hinges to replace them..
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Block plane to level the patches, round a few edges.....
Box #2 also gets a latch....front of the box had a high spot...
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had being the operative word..
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and then something to carry the box around with...
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Then both got a good sanding, a bit more plane work, and more sanding.....then a good wipe down. Then brushed on some varnish...
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Just on all the outside surfaces...trying NOT to get any on the insides...
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Then set out all the remaining Red Cedar boards...away from the drying varnish...
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To sort through for parts for a tray...or 2....
Waiting on the varnish to dry overnight....then rub it out,,and see about a second coat....
as for the Tray?
Stay tuned....
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - Ridgeway - 12-18-2020
I use red cedar for a lot of outdoor applications. I made several largish (2'x4') planter boxes and a cold frame about 10 years ago, and they are still going strong.
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-20-2020
Second coat has been rubbed out. Smaller of the two boxes has been delivered....Wife's pastor gets a little present each year about this time....larger box is still awaiting a place to go...
Ok...parts for a tray...
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Did not like the way the T&G were lining up....ripped those off...trying for about 12" length by 9" width...was able to do a glue up...
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trying to install a c clamp onto 2 cauls, while holding the panel and the cauls steady.....and tightening the clamp...FUN
Another short section of plank, was ripped down the center..
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Edges were jointed so the 2 will match each other..
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These planks have one smooth face, and one a bit....rough....smoother took care of the rough..
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Used these "ends" to help lay out the handled sides...
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Then drill a 1" diameter hole at one end of the handle....and fire up the scrollsaw..
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To get something like this...
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And, of course, had to smooth plane the rough side...smooth, again
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Waiting on the glue up..
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-21-2020
During Laundry Detail.....clamps removed from the glued up panel....panel was trimmed for square....ripped a bit for width...then over to the bench..
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To clean off dried glue, and level the glue joints. one face was already smooth...the other face was very rough sawn....
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Stanley No. 3, Type 11 took care of both.....so, maybe Tuesday, I can work on the corner joints?
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As soon as I figure out which to use....
Stay tuned...
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-24-2020
Laundry Detail, good enough for an hour or two in the shop?
Rounded up a few tools.. [attachment=31791]
Then a bit of layout...pins first, of course..
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use a big saw to make a few cuts...
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Chop out the waste...
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Oops....try better with the next set...at least that will be on the inside...
use the pins to lay out the tails....bandsaw to saw those out...
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I might just be getting the hang of doing these...
had an issue with corner #4.....enough that it became Corner #3...and redo #4....
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Then lay this mess down on the panel, to see how close a fit I came up with...
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So...the next night's Laundry Detail.......
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Set things over on the "assembly table" set up some clamps....spread some glue all around...
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Dovetails were tight enough to not really need the longer clamps,,,,had plenty of C clamps to use, though...
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Towels were dry, so I left this alone for the night....may check on it, later today...
Stay tuned
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-25-2020
Clamps came off today, trying to clean up the glue joints, was a matter of HOW to hold the tray securely enough...as I did have some end grain to plane on the ends of the tray..soooo
[attachment=31807]handles made things a bit tricky...end grain was sticking out a bit more than the end of the tray was....I also rounded over the edges a bit....then tried the sides...can't use the vise, handles would not take being clamped too well.....while I was using a plane...so
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Later added a second clamp...
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Around the inside of the handles....I used a dremel sanding drum....to round over the grips a bit....areas where the planes can't get to....Other curved spots around the top edges, a S. Smith & Sons do a bit of work..
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Then sanded everything to 320 grit, and then wiped it all nice and clean....then a coat of varnish....and then, on the 2nd try, I got a piece of plexiglass to fit inside the tray..
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Letting the still wet varnish "glue" the plexi in place...let this sit until the weekend...be a little busy tomorrow..
Stay tuned....
RE: Boxes of Red Cedar - bandit571 - 12-26-2020
And...back to box making...I went through all the remaining Cedar slats.....cut out the worst of the knots...removed the nasty T&Gs from the factory...Then see what I can make...
Well, two fairly long and almost clear slats want to get "curvy" clamped them up in the vise, to flatten the curves...
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Then sorted through a few more...got 2 to almost match....
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One a lot shorter than the other? Going to be the ends for the next box....but..I needed a second such panel..
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Let these 2 panels sit a day..or 2
....Then sorted a couple sides for the box...[attachment=31831]
haven't decided on the exact length...yet
Plus...i have all of this...[attachment=31832]
To find a use for....maybe compartments inside the box? Bottom of the box will be some 1/4" plywood....
Stay tuned....