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does blum make a hold up hinge? - MarkSingleton - 11-07-2021
LOML and I remodeled the kitchen several years ago. She loves it over all, but there is
one glaring error.
Here is the situation. We have two small cabinets with doors , above the refrigerator and the
microwave. They are hinged at the top and flip up to access the cabinets. But, you have to hold
them up, while you access the contents.
Not a problem for me, but she is a bit shorter, etc.
The whole kitchen uses Blum soft close hinges. Nice stuff. They MUST make one like I am in
search of. But my googlefu and etc is not finding them.
Here are some pics if it helps......
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RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - jteneyck - 11-07-2021
I've used Stabillis Lid Stays for vertical lift doors, but the smallest they make needs a door at least 10" wide and yours looks narrower than that. Maybe a lid stay would work.
John
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - MarkSingleton - 11-07-2021
John, I thank you for your reply. You are correct, those doors are very narrow.
They are only six and a half inches tall. The opening is five and a half.
I have tried to find a stay that will work, without success. None are small enough.
At least so far. There must be something that will work.
This is an ongoing quest , so to speak. I recently ordered a set of stays that I
was hoping would work. Again, they were just too big, small as they are. I will
keep them, for other projects down the road.
Blum does make a line of hardware designed to do what I want, but again, it is
just too large for the application.
I may be plain crazy thinking I could just swap the existing Blum hinges for a
different model!!
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - oscarMadison - 11-07-2021
what about something like these, may not be perfect but in combo with your existing hinges. The fourth link has the gas hinges like the stabills but smaller.
https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Cabinet-Cupborad-Furniture-Support/dp/B01N5GQZK2/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Lift+Up+Hinges&qid=1636339092&qsid=131-0306719-9875445&sr=8-2&sres=B01N5GQZK2%2CB08F9Z9VDY%2CB06XP7F53S%2CB075VRV5HG%2CB096SCR5R5%2CB00GLINH14%2CB01KPW4YQI%2CB075C8BMNV%2CB07KP2DNCK%2CB076FPX8MT%2CB08NT1VXD1%2CB01M6XXUM1%2CB0921BS1N9%2CB092W7FTNS%2CB072JTCCNK%2CB095BVVKFM%2CB079JQN539%2CB07S7SJND8%2CB083416M83%2CB07QNQKVG6&srpt=HARDWARE_HINGE
Or
https://www.amazon.com/MroMax-Furniture-Rotatable-Folding-Support/dp/B07W6KZ75T/ref=sr_1_50?keywords=Lift+Up+Hinges&qid=1636339662&rnid=2941120011&s=hi&sr=1-50
A mix of Lift Up Hinges https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Lift+Up+Hinges&i=tools&rh=n%3A2380871011%2Cn%3A511240&dc&qid=1636340092&rnid=2941120011&ref=sr_pg_1
Gas Lift-Up hinge with less then 10" extension, 1-5 stroke, weight less than 100lbs. Towards the bottom they have some that look they could be made to work. https://www.mcmaster.com/lift-up-hinges/extended-length~range~~-11580775507153/extension-force~range~~-13008919262546/
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - Cooler - 11-09-2021
Leave the hinges; add the Aventos.
https://www.rockler.com/aventos-hk-xs-door-lift-stay-for-face-frame-cabinets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1XqQOT6Dg
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - Stwood_ - 11-09-2021
Normally those upper openings have double doors. A left and a right, using the same hinges as the other, larger doors.
What was your reason for using flip up doors? They look nice, from what I can see of them.
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - joe1086 - 11-09-2021
(11-09-2021, 12:44 PM)Cooler Wrote: Leave the hinges; add the Aventos.
https://www.rockler.com/aventos-hk-xs-door-lift-stay-for-face-frame-cabinets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1XqQOT6Dg
OP's cabinet isn't tall enough for Aventos.
Aventos need 9" height.
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - MarkSingleton - 11-09-2021
(11-09-2021, 03:51 PM)joe1086 Wrote: OP's cabinet isn't tall enough for Aventos.
Aventos need 9" height.
Exactly. These guys are very small in height.
Both the doors and the opening.
The 'normal' solutions simply are not going to work.
I did not choose the doors to flip up. Not sure how they ended up that way, it may
have been LOML or it might have been the cabinet guys. Lost to history and no
longer matters, I just want to find a workable solution.
I may come up with some sort of custom hardware on my own ( eventually ).
Probably a strut that drags across a support bracket upon opening and after it gets
to a certain point drops into 'prop open' position. Which would do for the initial
open phase. To close you would need to reach up with both hands and move the
strut back over the bracket and lower the door. ( Clear as mud? )
I have toyed with a dowel inside a piece of pvc that could be pulled out and used to
hole the door open parallel to the ceiling. Not very elegant, obviously. And it uses up
a lot of room in the small cabinet.
The solution is out there. It's just finding it that is the problem!
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - Cooler - 11-10-2021
Why not redrill the doors to accept the hinges at the sides? The door would then swing open. The old cup holes would not be visible with the doors were closed. The hinges would be very close together. I don't know how that would work.
I looked on the Internet and could not find a minimum spacing distance between hinges. Maybe one of the other members here knows the answer. Weight will not be an issue though.
Or consider converting those cabinet doors into drawer fronts and making a over-the-refrigerator-drawer. That space will be far more accessible as a drawer especially if you use full extension slides. I would put in a center portion and very shallow sides so that the contents would be accessible from either side more so than from the front.
RE: does blum make a hold up hinge? - Stwood_ - 11-11-2021
Get some sink tray hinges and mount them upside down.
They will then flip up.
https://www.woodworkerexpress.com/sink-front-tip-out-tray-hinges-for-trays-16-and-shorter-rev-a-shelf-6552-94-0220-4.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_search&utm_campaign=google_product_ads&source=googlebase&country=US&gclid=CjwKCAiAm7OMBhAQEiwArvGi3MJwi9nM1KDyCCdlwDWb-vU0TKVb5pNv3WXFULJMTDnuuj7bcyY24BoCorsQAvD_BwE