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Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - Admiral - 12-03-2021
Very interesting discussion about "Trademark Trolls" : https://www.reddit.com/r/handtools/comments/r7mlz1/moxon_vise_is_now_a_registered_trademark/
Apparently there is still time to object; perhaps BenchCrafted should be interested in opposing this as if granted they could be forced to pay for/or have to litigate the right to use the term. Pretty slimy attempt; they are also trying to trademark "Scary Sharp".
Edit: link to Taytools website where they use "TM" after Moxon Vise. https://taytools.com/pages/search-results-page?q=moxon+vise+hardware+kit
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - ZachDillinger - 12-03-2021
Well, that is pretty scummy behavior. Shows a lack of character from the owner. I wouldn't purchase from them on a bet.
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - Alan S - 12-03-2021
I think it's an odd sort of bug. They clearly state it's called a Moxon vise because of its description in a 400 year old book. I think the TM is left over from the Grabo, an actually trademarked name. Note that the links incorrectly say "Moxon vise/Grabo".
Taylor Tools does not seem the type of company to intentionally try to copyright such things. My guess is that after finding the "/Grabo TM" in a description, they did a global search and replace for "/Grabo" and forgot to also remove the "TM".
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - ZachDillinger - 12-03-2021
(12-03-2021, 09:51 AM)Alan S Wrote: I think it's an odd sort of bug. They clearly state it's called a Moxon vise because of its description in a 400 year old book. I think the TM is left over from the Grabo, an actually trademarked name. Note that the links incorrectly say "Moxon vise/Grabo".
Taylor Tools does not seem the type of company to intentionally try to copyright such things. My guess is that after finding the "/Grabo TM" in a description, they did a global search and replace for "/Grabo" and forgot to also remove the "TM".
The Reddit link above describes that the company has filed official paperwork to trademark "Moxon vise". It isn't an artifact from a previous name. They also have TM after "Scary Sharp" on their website, which is almost as ridiculous.
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - Shaun - 12-03-2021
(12-03-2021, 09:51 AM)Alan S Wrote: I think it's an odd sort of bug. They clearly state it's called a Moxon vise because of its description in a 400 year old book. I think the TM is left over from the Grabo, an actually trademarked name. Note that the links incorrectly say "Moxon vise/Grabo".
Taylor Tools does not seem the type of company to intentionally try to copyright such things. My guess is that after finding the "/Grabo TM" in a description, they did a global search and replace for "/Grabo" and forgot to also remove the "TM".
https://www.bizapedia.com/trademarks/owners/taylor-toolworks-llc.html
They applied for both Moxon Vise and Moxon Vice (along with Scary Sharp and 1-2-3 Blocks)
That seems pretty intentional and shady to me.
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - merced - 12-03-2021
They are also trying to register a trademark for "1-2-3 blocks", filed the same day as their application to register "Moxon Vise".
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - ZachDillinger - 12-03-2021
(12-03-2021, 12:35 PM)merced Wrote: They are also trying to register a trademark for "1-2-3 blocks", filed the same day as their application to register "Moxon Vise".
Now that is truly ridiculous.
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - MarkSingleton - 12-03-2021
Hmmm. Think I will register a trademark for "shoestrings."
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - Bill_Houghton - 12-03-2021
Or "dirty jeans," and then sue anyone who refers to needing to put his/her dirty jeans in the wash.
Or maybe "screwdriver."
I don't see how they can prevail on trademarking "1-2-3 blocks."
RE: Taytools Trying to Trademark "Moxon Vise" - cpolubin - 12-03-2021
Add this to the blatant rip off of the Tite-mark design and it seems evident that the company has no morals. I have bought items from them in the past but after seeing all this, without some justification to the contrary this is not a vendor I want to do business with.
Cliff