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RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - Rick_B - 07-25-2022
Not sure what the problem is - that is exactly how infra specifies centering for their dovetail jig. Grandfather fence is not a 2 x 4 but the concept is the samd. Perhaps a description of better ways is in order
Rick Dr
RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - AHill - 07-25-2022
(07-23-2022, 01:50 PM)Handplanesandmore Wrote: https://www.finewoodworking.com/2020/03/27/centering-a-groove-on-a-router-table
I suppose they were short of material or videos to post on their website.
Simon
It would have been helpful to indicate what you found wrong about the video in addition to posting the link. And it would even more helpful to point us to the correct way of doing it. "Don't do it this way" doesn't help beginners.
RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - Handplanesandmore - 07-25-2022
Self-center mortising is nothing new, and even some beginners do it.....without using the clumsy and crude method seen in the video. Norm Abram cut centered grooves on rails and stiles all the time without oops and oops.
If you find the FW video showing a good mortising technique and the way he did it inspiring confidence to a viewer, you don't need anyone to tell you what is wrong with it.
Simon
RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - KC - 07-25-2022
(07-25-2022, 08:20 AM)Handplanesandmore Wrote: Self-center mortising is nothing new, and even some beginners do it.....without using the clumsy and crude method seen in the video. Norm Abram cut centered grooves on rails and stiles all the time without oops and oops.
If you find the FW video showing a good mortising technique and the way he did it inspiring confidence to a viewer, you don't need anyone to tell you what is wrong with it.
Simon
What?
RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - AHill - 07-26-2022
(07-25-2022, 08:20 AM)Handplanesandmore Wrote: Self-center mortising is nothing new, and even some beginners do it.....without using the clumsy and crude method seen in the video. Norm Abram cut centered grooves on rails and stiles all the time without oops and oops.
If you find the FW video showing a good mortising technique and the way he did it inspiring confidence to a viewer, you don't need anyone to tell you what is wrong with it.
Simon
So, it's up to the viewer to determine whether it's a good method or not? I don't see how that prevents a beginner from repeating the same method. I normally assume a video posted about a technique is intended to be instructional, and that the targeted audience is either a beginner or intermediate level woodworker. I'm not saying the guy's technique was the best way to center a mortise. Just saying that how would you know it's not the best way if you haven't ever attempted to use a router to center a mortise.
Norm's method of cutting a mortise usually involved a mortising machine. When he used a router, he manually set the fence to the router to layout lines he drew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSPFa3gI_aM
RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - rwe2156 - 07-27-2022
I think sometimes they are running out of content.
I see it all the time on YouTube a lot of channels stall out for that reason.
RE: Fine Woodworking on routing...Really? - iclark - 07-27-2022
(07-26-2022, 04:20 PM)AHill Wrote: So, it's up to the viewer to determine whether it's a good method or not? I don't see how that prevents a beginner from repeating the same method. I normally assume a video posted about a technique is intended to be instructional, and that the targeted audience is either a beginner or intermediate level woodworker. I'm not saying the guy's technique was the best way to center a mortise. Just saying that how would you know it's not the best way if you haven't ever attempted to use a router to center a mortise.
Norm's method of cutting a mortise usually involved a mortising machine. When he used a router, he manually set the fence to the router to layout lines he drew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSPFa3gI_aM
Sometimes, you can tell.
Tim Yoder brought a video to one of the AAW Symposiums (Pittsburgh?) where he introduced it in person that it was a what-can-go-wrong video. He also said it multiple times during the video.
Of course, there was also the clues that he was wearing safety glasses, a catcher's mask, and body armor (including the groin) in the video.
I no longer remember the details (hopefully, I still retain the safety info), but it was a very fun presentation by Tim.