(01-12-2023, 07:16 PM)barryvabeach Wrote: I had trouble following your drawing, but do most of the cooking, so i can throw in some tips of what I found that works. 

First, for the ones we use often, we have an old wood bottle crate that has the wire grids that turn out to be the ideal size for the full size round jars. To make it more efficient,  I store those in Alpha order, and write the name on the top of the lid so it you don't have to take out the spice to confirm.  If you drill holes for the jars, you will want to label the tops so you know which is which.   You could always make a similar crate out of 1/2 material, with 1/4 material for the grids ,

For the smaller jars, we have a drop down -  the pricing on this looks high, but it was the first one I could find  hardware  so I would look around to see if you can find some better pricing.  Here is another one, though it looks kind of clunky.  under cabinet rackThe good part is that it uses otherwise wasted space.  

If you go the drawer route, you can make one full size drawer, then make a half width shelf that sits on top and moves back and forth like the sliding till in a tool box.  tool chest sliding till

(01-13-2023, 07:07 AM)KC Wrote: I'll absolutely recommend these.  

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(01-12-2023, 07:16 PM)barryvabeach Wrote: I had trouble following your drawing, but do most of the cooking, so i can throw in some tips of what I found that works. 

First, for the ones we use often, we have an old wood bottle crate that has the wire grids that turn out to be the ideal size for the full size round jars. To make it more efficient,  I store those in Alpha order, and write the name on the top of the lid so it you don't have to take out the spice to confirm.  If you drill holes for the jars, you will want to label the tops so you know which is which.   You could always make a similar crate out of 1/2 material, with 1/4 material for the grids ,

For the smaller jars, we have a drop down -  the pricing on this looks high, but it was the first one I could find  hardware  so I would look around to see if you can find some better pricing.  Here is another one, though it looks kind of clunky.  under cabinet rackThe good part is that it uses otherwise wasted space.  

If you go the drawer route, you can make one full size drawer, then make a half width shelf that sits on top and moves back and forth like the sliding till in a tool box.  tool chest sliding till

• Make the drawers as short (height wise) as possible.  Every vertical fraction of an inch is crucial.  The sides of the rack should be the sides of the drawer.  
  
• Just go ahead and take out the shelf the spices are currently on.  Does it hold the cabinet sides together or serve some structural purpose?  If not, remove it.  It's taking up 1/2" - 3/4" of an inch of vertical space.  
  
• Study those bottle sizes.  I recall there's 2-3 main sizes.  Plan for the different sized bottles.  You say the shelf is about 8" tall?  Take out the shelf itself and we're almost 9" to work with.  Do some calculating & measuring to figure out how much you can stand up the spices for them to still fit height wise.  The more you stand them up, the more rows you can fit front to back.  Can't stand them up too tall though.  I like to be able to read the front cover.  Which means the bottle in front of it can't cover up too much of the label.