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RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - jteneyck - 01-31-2025
(01-31-2025, 06:33 AM)iclark Wrote: Thanks for the drawings showing the layout. Things make a lot more sense now.
I understand that you don't want to change the design for the customer.
If I had made them for my own use, I might consider adding a vertical divider strip (2 section - upper and lower) down the middle that was hinged to one of the doors. 3" wide could be a good opportunity for little cubby shelves to hold smaller pantry items.
I don't understand how that would work. Please explain.
I did toy with the idea of using two of the doors as they are and making two new ones that are 3" wider but discarded it.
John
Now I'm thinking of another idea that might just look good. More to follow, hopefully.
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - zaret - 02-01-2025
those are beautiful doors, and i feel your pain. been there many times. every time i feel as though i'm just starting to really wrap my head around this stuff, i do something stupid, or, i fail to recall a past-learned lesson until it's too late.
put on some music, remake the doors, and move past it.
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - iclark - 02-02-2025
(01-31-2025, 11:36 AM)jteneyck Wrote: I don't understand how that would work. Please explain.
I did toy with the idea of using two of the doors as they are and making two new ones that are 3" wider but discarded it.
John
Now I'm thinking of another idea that might just look good. More to follow, hopefully.
As I understand it, the horizontal gap is ~3" between the doors.
If you attach a ~3" wide board to one of the doors (where the gap is) and the same height as the door with a hinge, that center strip could hinge open without opening the big door.
If you put some shelves on that 3" board that are quarter-circle and with a retaining strip, then you could open that strip to access small items from the pantry that are stored on those shelves. Things like non-refrigerated condiments, larger spice jars, or small everyday type items. Of course, the height/location of those small shelves would have to be vertically from the pantry shelves.
In a shop, it could hold boxes of screws or nails, one of those tubes of wire ties, oil cans (old style), bottles of carnuba oil or walnut oil, blocks of resin, blocks of erasers to clean sander belts, etc.
Does that convey the concept better?
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - jteneyck - 02-02-2025
Yes, thanks, I understand now. Thanks for explaining it to me. Interesting idea.
John
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - AHill - 02-04-2025
Could you add 1.5" to each side of the door frame?
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - jteneyck - 02-04-2025
(02-04-2025, 01:01 PM)AHill Wrote: Could you add 1.5" to each side of the door frame?
Yes, I could. Whether or not that looks good becomes the question.
To give you all an update: I proposed an idea with a center filler with grooves in it, just like the panels, that would run top to bottom on each set of doors. The owner didn't like grooves, and then leaped to using a contrasting wood on something in her kitchen for that filler piece. So this is what it probably will look like once the new filler panel is installed.
![[Image: AP1GczOSOb9azJMspgIpSptUEAoDsSOZJvw67Y-S...authuser=1]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOSOb9azJMspgIpSptUEAoDsSOZJvw67Y-SW5_3lZPlTrzoww0008Cbs6mAx62cKn-h2id3lhirbPV9fL3j7FFTndBAhXp7x7xOS6zOaen9bwucDzHtSo6Co8MKJoSCGvt_VFCS6MmCJFgsIMRLRl5OIQ=w1460-h583-s-no?authuser=1)
The filler will be glued into a rabbet in one door, and an astragal into a rabbet in the other door, so the reveals will look the same on both sides. The wood is probably going to be rosewood. I left it up to her to find a piece of veneer that she likes and I'll glue it onto an oak substrate, on all exposed surfaces. Certainly Wood is local to us, so I'm sure she'll be able to find something she likes and that matches the wood of the other pieces. If you've never heard of Certainly Wood, they are one of the premium veneer suppliers in the USA and beyond.
If it turns out this doesn't look as good as she thinks, I'll make new doors.
John
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - AHill - 02-05-2025
(02-04-2025, 06:53 PM)jteneyck Wrote: Yes, I could. Whether or not that looks good becomes the question.
To give you all an update: I proposed an idea with a center filler with grooves in it, just like the panels, that would run top to bottom on each set of doors. The owner didn't like grooves, and then leaped to using a contrasting wood on something in her kitchen for that filler piece. So this is what it probably will look like once the new filler panel is installed.
The filler will be glued into a rabbet in one door, and an astragal into a rabbet in the other door, so the reveals will look the same on both sides. The wood is probably going to be rosewood. I left it up to her to find a piece of veneer that she likes and I'll glue it onto an oak substrate, on all exposed surfaces. Certainly Wood is local to us, so I'm sure she'll be able to find something she likes and that matches the wood of the other pieces. If you've never heard of Certainly Wood, they are one of the premium veneer suppliers in the USA and beyond.
If it turns out this doesn't look as good as she thinks, I'll make new doors.
John
Looks like a pretty good solution. Hope it works out that you don't have to make new doors.
RE: A Slice of Humble Pie Today - jteneyck - 02-05-2025
(02-05-2025, 07:36 AM)AHill Wrote: Looks like a pretty good solution. Hope it works out that you don't have to make new doors.
Thanks, well see in another week or so. This week is skiing and I'm happy to report that my bionic knee is doing well.
John