Wedged tenon question
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I have a question about wedged tenons. I'm referring the the kind with two parallel saw kerfs into the end grain, with wedges tapped and glued in to lock the joint. I do not mean the loose, crosswise wedge you see on trestle tables.

When the tenon has square corners, the mortise can be funnel-shaped, with the tenon fitting snugly on the inside of the joint, then flaring out toward the outside. One advantage, assuming one has chiseled the flared recesses accurately, is that the end-grain view of the tenon is symmetric. The exposed cross-sections of the two wedges have the same thickness. This looks good.

When the tenon is rounded, what does one do? I use a tailed router to make the mortises, and there's no easy was to get the flared, funnel shape. The simplest approach is simply to widen the entire mortise. This works -- granted, the tenon edges don't make contact along their length, but it still locks* -- but because the joint has slop, it's difficult to get it centered. As a result, the wedge cross sections are noticeably different in thickness. Visually, it's a little jarring.

Is there a better way?

Thanks.

*This was for a handle on a small serving tray, so it's not subject to much stress.
Best,
Aram, always learning

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#7
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.as...&cat=1,180,42337 The traditional way.

http://www.zoro.com/irwin-unibit-step-dr...tm_campaign=PLA Works.

I just use a suitable sweep gouge to enlarge 1/3 to 1/2 the way through.
Better to follow the leader than the pack. Less to step in.
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MichaelMouse said:


http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.as...&cat=1,180,42337 The traditional way.

http://www.zoro.com/irwin-unibit-step-dr...tm_campaign=PLA Works.

I just use a suitable sweep gouge to enlarge 1/3 to 1/2 the way through.




Thanks! The spoon bit is new to me, and the idea makes me unreasonably happy. And an excuse to buy another gouge? I'm gonna wedge me some tenons.
Best,
Aram, always learning

"Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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#9
Seeing as you said the joint will not see much stress and you are more concerned with aesthetic, I would consider putting in a semi faux wedge. What I envision is cutting a "V" notch in the tenon with the open end of the "V" cut to the amount wedge thickness you want to show and the bottom end of the "V" just slightly below the face of the mortice. I would use a Japanese saw to cut the notch because it has a thin kerf and tracks very well IME. The wedges should be the same angle as the notch, long enough to be driven below the face of the mortice but should not bottom out in the notch. Drive the wedges in evenly enough to snug up the tenon in the mortice. I'm assuming your tenon is long enough that there's plenty of glue surface so that the joint would have been sufficient even without the wedges.

Best of luck,

Johnet
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#10
Often the reason that the wedges appear to be different sizes is that one is driven in and it goes most of the way in then the other wedge is driven in and it cannot go all the way. The solution is to just start both wedges then drive them both in at the same time and the same distance. Then the wedges will be very close to the same thickness when the end of the tenon is cleaned up.
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