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+1 on a sub-panel. I didn't do that that first time around. I had to the second time. Learn form others and do it right the first time.
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while it might happen it is darn near impossible to have too many breaker slots
If you have a 20 slot panel the kitchen takes up 25% or better?
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10-28-2016, 10:16 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-28-2016, 10:17 AM by TDKPE.)
As to adding a subpanel, the BORGs always have a selection of 'builder packs' of panels with half a dozen 15A breakers. If they have a main breaker, you can just leave it, as it will have a higher rating than you're feeding it with. And they're very cost effective.
Just remember to remove the bonding jumper or screw, since it's a sub.
Assuming you're interested in doing it this way, of course.
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(10-28-2016, 09:44 AM)Mr_Mike Wrote: +1 on a sub-panel. I didn't do that that first time around. I had to the second time. Learn form others and do it right the first time.
A friend wants me to set two baseboard heaters in his basement and he's out of panel space. We're doing exactly what I suggested above.
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A thought just occurred to me (imagine that).
What kind of panel is it and what kind of breakers?
Some (maybe all) Square D breakers can be double tapped as long as both wires are the same gauge. They have two saddles under the lug screw.
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(10-28-2016, 08:20 PM)Snipe Hunter Wrote: Some (maybe all) Square D breakers can be double tapped as long as both wires are the same gauge. They have two saddles under the lug screw.
QO-series can have two conductors landed under the clamp. Don't know about the Homeline series, but I kind of doubt it.
You can also wire nut them together with a pigtail, assuming each circuit is lightly loaded under all normal conditions, including the 80% derating for continuous loads (and lighting is considered continuous).
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