#19
Because of metal doors I cannot use a wireless doorbell (tried a couple of them).

Can doorbell wire (low-v, not the 120) be run on the surface without an encasement?
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#20
Do you have to pull a permit to install a doorbell?

Would a WiFi doorbell (Ring or Nest, for example) work? Yes, it costs more, but not wires to run if you already have wifi within range.
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#21
(11-11-2018, 07:58 PM)JosephP Wrote: Do you have to pull a permit to install a doorbell?

No.
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(11-11-2018, 07:58 PM)JosephP Wrote: Do you have to pull a permit to install a doorbell?
(11-11-2018, 07:59 PM)Scouter Wrote: No.
What was your original question again???
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#23
(11-11-2018, 08:44 PM)JosephP Wrote: What was your original question again???

Can doorbell wire (low-v, not the 120) be run on the surface without an encasement?
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#24
Interesting.
Our cordless door bell is outside a screened porch. The door to the house is steel, with 8" wide side lites on each side. Bell itself is about 30 feet inside the door.
Works fine.
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(11-11-2018, 08:09 PM)Pirate Wrote: Interesting.
Our cordless door bell is outside a screened porch. The door to the house is steel, with 8" wide side lites on each side. Bell itself is about 30 feet inside the door.
Works fine.

We have a double steel door, 15' of foyer, another double steel door, then 20' to the nearest outlet.
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#26
I had to move to wireless after installing a storm door, since I could not effectively re-route the original hard wires.

The Home Depot models were poor and unreliable. I bought one online and it's been great, and it works with a steel door. They are also battery-powered only (C for the wall unit, and 2032 for the outdoor transmitter). No power required.

I'd recommend giving them a shot, since they're better than you think. You shouldn't have any problems running something like 24VAC exposed, but it won't look very nice.
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#27
Usually, under 30 volts is fine unprotected. Door bell transformers are 16 volt.

You can find inexpensive trim made just for wall exposed wiring at the box stores.
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(11-11-2018, 06:50 PM)Scouter Wrote: Can doorbell wire (low-v, not the 120) be run on the surface without an encasement?

Yes
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