A long way to go

[tablesawtom]

I have a long way to go to get these two planes back into service.  I am not sure if either is complete. One is pretty much complete but the other is not as much all there. Please let me know if I am missing some parts. I would like to get one complete and then sell the other for maybe a plow plane.

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Thanks in advance for your help.

Tom

[bandit571]

Also have 2 No. 45s..
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Both are complete, and in use...
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This is an older Type 4..and...
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This is the newer Type 20, made in Roxton Pond, QUE, Canada...

Be happy yo supply any photos of either plane that you would need....

[Nordic]

The one looks *mostly* complete...  The only way to actually tell is to do a run-down of all the parts you have against what they were known to have, such as what is shown on Patrick's Blood and Gore:

https://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan6.htm



I don't see a "cam" stop, for instance, or the longer beading stop and depth gauge (though I might just be overlooking them).  These, Patrick says, are some of the most common missing parts - which he shows in this photo:



You do at least have the slitter and its stop.  The often missing parts aren't used that much, which is probably a big reason they are so often missing.

I see mostly surface rust that should clean up easily.

The later models have a knob for minor adjustments on the fence that help with the plane's usability (#54 in the diagram above).  

They are finicky things, however, and have trouble in all but the straightest grain.  They work great in clear softwoods such as pine or hemlock.  I've had difficulty with hardwoods with interlocking or wandering grain.  Softer, straight grain hardwoods usually work OK (e.g. mahogany, walnut) so long as the run is clear.

A full set of cutters runs a bit high these days.  If you just are just doing dados, etc., then the more common ones are pretty easy to come by.

[Tapper]

Looks like Evaporust to the rescue, to me - good luck! 


Doug

[bandit571]

The "problem with using a "soak" to clean up a Stanley No. 45.....
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Is the rear handles...as the pins that hold them in place, do NOT run all the way through to the other side...so one can NOT just drive the pins out....Front knobs are easy to remove ( and get lost) but, the rear handles....?

Maybe build a box or two to house those in?   One can get in a wee bit of woodworkng?
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The OEM way? Or..
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One that fits an assembled plane...

Remember to add a label..
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For the Lid and..
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So that you can tell what is in the case, before you open it up...
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[tablesawtom]

I did get the two cleaned up.

   

   

It took a little hammer, file, and sanding block time to get the clip to rotate in the nut smoothly. I also knocked of the sharp corner of the under side of the cutter. A sharp corner into a sharp corner always can get sticky and I wanted the  cutter to release for adjustment without much turning of the wheel

   

When the other plane got cleaned up I did covered that the threaded boss that tightens the foot was broken off. The foot can be adjusted but not tightened enough to hold the foot in place.  So it will be a parts plane. Since I do not have short rods I probably will cut the other two rods into the shorter size.
 

   

   

I have yet to get the last pieces moving so that I can get them fully apart. And I do have the whole set of cutters in storage. I just can't get to them at the present.

   

Bandit did say something that did make since to me and that was to have two 45s, one for long grain and one set up for cross grain. The knickers are kind of a pain to get to, so having two makes since.

He also talked about making boxes, but the city tore down the building next to mine and in the process destroyed my building, in which my shop was in. So at the time all my shop is in two storage units. So there will not be any box making happening on my part, until the law suit is over.

Tom

[bandit571]

The sliding stock that has a bolt to "Fine Adjust" where the fence will be...yours is missing a small bolt that lock the adjustment in place..the wood part slides in or out on 2 small rods...and the small knurled lock bolt keeps things in place, once you have things set up...it is on the front small rod...you will find an empty hole where it used to be..
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