cabinet door hinge question

[ed kerns]

Hi All! I'm building a bathroom vanity that will fit tightly between two walls. The carcass is 3/4 ply and the doors will overlay the carcass but there will be no other face frame. My concern is whether my doors will open entirely. I know they will hit the wall at 90 degrees - and before that depending on the handle. I plan to use concealed hinges. Am I correct that if I use a partial overlay hinge I can get enough room to open these doors? If absolutely necessary I can put a little filler strip between the cabinet and the wall to allow more door swing, but I'd like to avoid or at the least minimize that as much as possible. I'd appreciate some real world advice. Thank you!

[Roly]

Hi All! I'm building a bathroom vanity that will fit tightly between two walls. The carcass is 3/4 ply and the doors will overlay the carcass but there will be no other face frame. My concern is whether my doors will open entirely. I know they will hit the wall at 90 degrees - and before that depending on the handle. I plan to use concealed hinges. Am I correct that if I use a partial overlay hinge I can get enough room to open these doors? If absolutely necessary I can put a little filler strip between the cabinet and the wall to allow more door swing, but I'd like to avoid or at the least minimize that as much as possible. I'd appreciate some real world advice. Thank you!

Look at a full overlay hinge and see if that is what you need.   These hinges are not cheap and are bulky.  In a small cabinet they eat up a lot of storage room .    They allow the door to open almost 180 degrees.  As you open the door it moves it away from the hinge and out.  I don't care for them because of their bulk which gets in the way of the door closing.  Roly

[ed kerns]

Look at a full overlay hinge and see if that is what you need.   These hinges are not cheap and are bulky.  In a small cabinet they eat up a lot of storage room .    They allow the door to open almost 180 degrees.  As you open the door it moves it away from the hinge and out.  I don't care for them because of their bulk which gets in the way of the door closing.  Roly

Thank you Roly. I know the hinge you speak of. I have a set on one of my kitchen cabinet doors. In this case, the door will never open past 90 because there will be a wall in the way. Remarkable though, what some of these hinges can do!

[Gary G™]

If the door hits the wall at 90, any hinge should work as that’s not much swing.

[AHill]

If the door hits the wall at 90, any hinge should work as that’s not much swing.

Which implies the door needs to be offset at least the distance of the thickness of the door from the hinge side.  In other words, you need clearance from the wall to the door when the door is open at that 90 degree angle.  It kind of makes a difference where the pivot point of the hinge is as well. Locating the hinge where the hinge barrel is inside the opening helps.  Otherwise, you also need to account for the diameter of the hinge barrel.

[ed kerns]

Which implies the door needs to be offset at least the distance of the thickness of the door from the hinge side.  In other words, you need clearance from the wall to the door when the door is open at that 90 degree angle.  It kind of makes a difference where the pivot point of the hinge is as well. Locating the hinge where the hinge barrel is inside the opening helps.  Otherwise, you also need to account for the diameter of the hinge barrel.

You're right Gary. This door will be offset exactly the thickness of the door so I think I'll be alright. These are the concealed hinges so no hinge barrel per se, but same concept. I think by using a partial overlay hinge, I'll actually pick up about 3/8 of an inch (half the carcass thickness) so maybe I'll even have a little wiggle room. Thanks!

[jteneyck]

Hi All! I'm building a bathroom vanity that will fit tightly between two walls. The carcass is 3/4 ply and the doors will overlay the carcass but there will be no other face frame. My concern is whether my doors will open entirely. I know they will hit the wall at 90 degrees - and before that depending on the handle. I plan to use concealed hinges. Am I correct that if I use a partial overlay hinge I can get enough room to open these doors? If absolutely necessary I can put a little filler strip between the cabinet and the wall to allow more door swing, but I'd like to avoid or at the least minimize that as much as possible. I'd appreciate some real world advice. Thank you!

As long as you leave at least the required minimum reveal specified for that hinge it will work w/o hitting the wall.  There are lots of Blum hinges you could choose from.  Also, several of them have restriction clips that limit the door opening to 85 deg, for this exact situation. 

John

[ed kerns]

As long as you leave at least the required minimum reveal specified for that hinge it will work w/o hitting the wall.  There are lots of Blum hinges you could choose from.  Also, several of them have restriction clips that limit the door opening to 85 deg, for this exact situation. 

John

Exactly the info (and reassurance) I was looking for John. This is my first non-faceframe cabinet, so a learning experience. The restriction clips you mention, is it integral to the hinge, or something that can be installed after the fact? Thank you!

[jteneyck]

Exactly the info (and reassurance) I was looking for John. This is my first non-faceframe cabinet, so a learning experience. The restriction clips you mention, is it integral to the hinge, or something that can be installed after the fact? Thank you!

The restriction clip is an add-on piece.  Here's a link to a page at Woodworker's Hardware.  LINK  It should show both a 107 deg hinge and the restriction clip for it.  You would use the full overlay version of the 107 deg hinge, plus the appropriate mounting plate.  Click on the item for further info.  

John

[ed kerns]

The restriction clip is an add-on piece.  Here's a link to a page at Woodworker's Hardware.  LINK  It should show both a 107 deg hinge and the restriction clip for it.  You would use the full overlay version of the 107 deg hinge, plus the appropriate mounting plate.  Click on the item for further info.  

John

What a great resource - you and the link! Thank you.