Posts: 1,087
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2002
I'm not sure how to fix this one. The problem seems to have started because the downspout bend might be clogged or something. The stone wraps around the corner so wouldn't want to pull anything off from the outside:
Inside I had a ladder and pulled out the insulation to get a good view. The floor joist (on left) only seems damaged at the end. Does the rim joist (or header joist) do anything but keep the joints aligned. I wasn't really able to get a good look the other side of the joist.
This isn't good. I assume would have to be disclosed as mold when selling the house.
Thanks,
Rich
"Have a very small amount of things to work with." Henri Cartier-Bresson
Posts: 7,421
Threads: 1
Joined: Sep 2005
It is only mold if it is still vital. Try spraying with household bleach or pool shock if it is very difficult. It is only a small area. If it is killed off I don't think you have to report, "We used to have mold" anymore than you would have to say, "We used to have an old roof".
No animals were injured or killed in the production of this post.
Posts: 5,733
Threads: 2
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Fort Worth
Is the wood punky at all. Looks more cosmetic at rhis point in the picture but just going by the picture.
If it's light damage I would first eliminate the water ingress and remove and stop the mold. Then if the wood isn't bad I would sister a joist on that one then I would block on both sides up against the rim joist.
As for reporting it as mold by the seller I dunnow. That varies allot by state and even county and city and in recent years the mold fear has subsided as the insurance companies got hammered for repairs that cost more than they should have.
Posts: 1,087
Threads: 0
Joined: Oct 2002
The head joist was soft. The floor joist was OK
Rich
"Have a very small amount of things to work with." Henri Cartier-Bresson
Posts: 5,733
Threads: 2
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Fort Worth
richtes said:
The head joist was soft. The floor joist was OK
Rich
In that case if it were me I'd kill the mold and reinforce the area and call it done. Seen and repaired way worse than that.
Hopefully that's the only spot and all is good. Don't over think it.
Posts: 2,274
Threads: 90
Joined: Jun 2001
Fixing the clogged downspout should stop that area from getting moisture. Kill the mild with bleach and it should stay away once the water is gone. If you fix a problem you do not have to report the ex-problem. At least that is the way my RE agent told me. We had an issue with sewer backing up - I put in a check valve and the problem went away; did not have to report that. Had a leak in the roof - reroofed - no more problem.
There is no need to rehash the problems you fixed. This problem looks easy to me. I think I would place a fan there to help the drying. I can't tell if there is any more damage then the mold. Once it is dry then you can poke the wood to see if it still soft. If it is still soft then there maybe damage that needs to be fixed. Then is becomes a job.
John
Always use the right tool for the job.
We need to clean house.
Posts: 12,046
Threads: 1,611
Joined: Jan 2001
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
There has to be a way for water to get into the rim joist(what the joists connect to) and cause that mold. I'd use more than just bleach. Bleach kills mold but not the spores.
If the rim joist is punky(soft all the way through, it really needs to be replaced, at least that section. Unfortunately, the best replacement method is from the outside.
If the rim joist is just damp, dry it(fan for several days is a good idea) and make sure it is dry and solid. Kill the mold and spores and simply add sections of 2x12(whatever the rim joist size is) between the floor joists, more to hide the mold than anything. As long as the leak is fixed and the wood is dry, the area should be fine.
Posts: 24,054
Threads: 0
Joined: Jan 2004
Agreed. I'd use a borate solution. Timbor or Boracare.
Matt
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.
-Jack Handy
Posts: 787
Threads: 0
Joined: Feb 2010
Take away moisture or organic stuff the mold eats or change in temperature and the mold dies. To clean it spray it with a mildicide such as tilex. I've done that in remodeling works well. The mold stuff I learned at a seminar when I was a pm for an architect
Everybody blamed his old man for makin him mean as a snake. When Amos Moses was a boy his daddy would use him for alligator bait!
-Jerry Reed
Larry
Posts: 5,733
Threads: 2
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Fort Worth
I read an article on the EPAs site years back having to do with flood damaged homes and they recommended not using bleach. They recommended using pinesol. Never did find out why and can't find that article again.