Hinge recommendation needed for built in shoe box lid

[Kansas City Fireslayer]

I am looking for suggestions on what hinges I should use for a built in shoe box lid.  The lid was beat up and ratty looking so I decided to build a solid white oak lid similar to what was there before.  The first lid had a piano hinge on it but I'd like to add something nicer and possibly with a soft close option.  I had bought a set of cup hinges with soft close but they aren't going to work.  I thought I'd picked up the right set in regards to swing and angles but I didn't.  

The lid assembly is basically a three sided frame with a lid that sits flush with the frame.  It's very similar to a flush cabinet door.  I've added some picture of the 3 sides and the lid.  I still have to trim the two side pieces and add a decorative nosing to the front.....and add the hinges as well.  This assembly has a back and two side walls.  Basically it's like an open closet with no door and the box sits on the floor.  It doubles as a seat to put your shoes on.  I hope this make sense.  Any suggestions are welcome as I'll admit I'm not really knowledgeable when it comes to hinges and hardware.  Thanks.

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[JGrout]

A Piano hinge would be the sturdiest here 

I would rabbet both the frame and the lid 

I would also add a couple of soft close pistons as in the ones Blum makes for regular doors 

I did one almost exactly the same last summer the clients have been very happy with the unit

[johndi]

http://www.woodworkerexpress.com/Lid-Sup...DQodTmEJHQ

Would these work?

[Bill Holt]

I like the Torsion Hinge from Rockler.

[Steve N]

http://www.woodworkerexpress.com/Lid-Sup...DQodTmEJHQ

Would these work?

Probably would. I have never heard of that company though, have you already dealt with them?

I see them at Amazooo for more $$$$$$$, but sometimes paying more to make sure you get your item is the better deal. Course the ones at Amazooo are NSDX 35LK, and I would assume a 35 is heavier than a 20????? Might be worth a ask around with the makers.

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[Kansas City Fireslayer]

Sorry to ignore this thread for so long.  I'm still decided on what I'm going to do.  A milled rabbeted edge isn't possible at this point but I will add support to the sides.  The front lid is supported by the box.  I really wanted to find something local today but I don't know if that's going to happen.  I'm going back and forth between using a rustic forged style strap hinge on the topside of the lid/frame or using the Blum inset hinge with face frame construction.  I will also add a soft close mechanism.  Here's the hinge I'm considering but still undecided between it and forged style strap hinge.  The strap style hinge would look pretty cool with other farm style/old world elements in our home.  



https://www.woodcraft.com/products/blum-...face-frame

[JGrout]

If you go with that hinge I would encourage putting a support piece between the hinges underneath to support the back of the seat those hinges are not designed for an adults weight;  over time you will see a failure without the support

[Steve N]

I happened to be at Rockler today, and saw these torsion hinges You can mortise, or flush mount. Actually they would look better flush mounted because the edges are beveled. The thing I liked was they had different models for different weights, but unlike so many weight different hinges they all shared the exact same foot print. No GONZO sized hinge for the heavier weight. If you had a heavy lid you could opt for a two pack, and a single to set 3 across. Going that route you could park Elephants on top, and do ok. I can't conceive of a 180# lid, you'd need a chain hoist to lift it


Saw them and thought of this thread.

[JGrout]

Those would have been my first choice as well 

But if you look at his pics there is an issue that would have to be overcome and I am pretty sure it would be a challenge First it is over lay hinge as any chest lid is not an inset lid . Second there is not vertical member in the unit top to connect it to......

they are great for a chest. This is not the same 




JMO 

Joe

[Steve N]

Joe, I looked at them for a while, and though they were in the packages, and I couldn't play, my sense was they were bi-directional, so mount from inside was possible. I think it may be why in features they say.

"Hinges can be installed for both overlay and flush fitting lids"


Check where the pics are in the ad, and look at the second one, it's a video. Right at the start you can see them on the inside of the box. I didn't go the entire vid, they may explain better in that. I just saw the first seconds. But I think they are pretty universal, which for a hinge, that's different too. I'm seeing these things cheap for the weight they hold, and the utility they offer, in a not so bad looking package.

Found in Q&A

What is the range of motion for the hinge? All I have seen depicted is approximately 90 dgrees. Any info would be appreciated.
A shopper on Jun 29, 2015

BEST ANSWER: My application worked through 180 degrees.