Apothecary chest
(07-09-2018, 10:58 AM)Derek Cohen Wrote: The run out from cutting away the ends of the boards is noticeable (to me at any rate) ...

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Regards from Perth

Derek

Looking back at the previous photos, I have to agree with you. The grain looks much different at this point; so different that the fronts don't look continuous to me, but rather like sequential, re-sawn pieces.
Jason

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Now that I see it, I get what you were talking about.

What would be your options for a piece like this?  Just veneering the front?
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I can live with this run out. Just pointing it out as a reason I avoided very thick stock for the drawer fronts.

The only way to avoid run out is to veneer or laminate the fronts. I am not set up for that (I do not have a vacuum press). The method I used in dovetailing the fronts was aimed at angling the boards so as to minimise runout. I reckon that this was the best result possible using solid fronts.

Regards from Perth

Derek
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Shaping the curved faces of the drawers was a lot of work, and I was very pleased to see it done. Dusty and dirty.Not fun. Now the inside faces need to be done, and this will complete the the third stage of building the drawers (the first stage was to fit parallelogram-shaped drawer fronts into their recesses, and the second stage was dovetailing the fronts).

The drawer front shaped on the outside only ...

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Blue tape (what else!
Smile ) is added to upper and lower edges ...

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The inside curve is scribed ...

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Pulled apart, the rear of the drawer front is chamfered with a round bottomed spokeshave to prevent spelching ...

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The waste is removed with rasps - this is an Auriou 10 grain ...

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Three rasps in all are used to remove and smooth, ending with this 15 grain ..

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The surface is refined and finished with a scraper ..

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Final shots of the completed drawer front ...

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Regards from Perth

Derek
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Not a bombe', but I love that grain pattern on the front of the chest.  Only possible through careful attention to matching cuts. 

What color are you going to paint it? 
Wink
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(07-14-2018, 11:55 AM)hbmcc Wrote: What color are you going to paint it? 
Wink


Laugh

Regards from Perth

Derek
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This is a long post, and so feel free to skim through it. Who needs another dovetailing documentary?

This one is specific to the back of a drawer, and so is different from the through dovetails which one might use on boxes. Also, I have a few techniques to share, ones that I do not see mentioned much, if at all.

The drawer is one in the Apothecary chest. What has been shown before was the dovetailing hijinks needed for the curved fronts. This affects the drawer sides as well, since they are not equal in length. In fact, the length for the sides need to be measured individually.

Here is a drawer front with sides ...

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It is fitted in the recess and positioned carefully (top right hand drawer) ...

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At the rear of the chest, the drawer sides are clamped to avoid any movement ...

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Now the drawer side length can be marked. The final length is 10mm in from the back of the recess.

We are ready to begin joining the rear of the drawer. A drawer back has been added to the parts ...

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"Drop" (the gauge) for the width of the drawer back and transfer it to the ends of the drawer sides ...

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Now do the same for the drawer sides and transfer this to the drawer back ...

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With 24 drawers, it was quicker and easier to make up a template for positioning the tails ...

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Note that the tail alongside the groove (for the drawer bottom) is not a triangle, but one side is vertical (flanking the groove) ...

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Saw both drawer sides ...

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Time to remove the waste from the tails. First, create a chisel wall for all the tails ...

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Fretsaw the waste to 1-2mm from the line ...

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Remove the waste in thin layers for the cleanest finish. Note that the Tasmanian Oak is too thin (6.5m) to confidently pare half way by hand (better to use a hammer for precision). By taking very fine layers it is possible to push through the board without spelching the other side ...

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Blue tape on everything!! The drawer sides have blue tape ala the #140 trick (I wrote this up recently on my website). There are 4 layers. The drawer back has tape to aid in transferring marks (don't knock it if your eyesight is better than mine).

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Transfer the tails to the pin board ...

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The great thing about the blue tape method is that you only need one knife stroke to cut through. No sawing away to make an impression in the end grain. Saw against the tape. Go for it!

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Now remove the waste with a fretsaw. Again, aim for about 1mm above the line. For control, hold the saw handle very gently, and saw as lightly as you can - do not force the cut. Let the saw do the work. You will be rewarded with a straight line ...

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I saw away the ends about 1mm above the line ...

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In years past, I used to saw to the line. I now see more value in paring to the line. What you will notice is the chisel wall around the section. I am reminded of David Charlesworth's method of removing end waste. He calls his process "tenting". In this he pares upward, reducing the waste all the time. In my method, this is unnecessary since the chisel wall protects the sides and you can see when you are getting close to level ...

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Of all the aspects in through dovetailing, I think that removing the waste between the pins is the hardest. This is again where I was reminded of David's tenting method (but which he does not use in this section, only at the ends).

Again the chisel wall aides in enabling the chisel to register against the line without any danger of going over it. The chisel here is PM HSS, and very tough (and sharp!). The blade is driven at an angle away from the sides ...

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Turning the board over, and repeating the manoeuvre, the result is a tent ...

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I have two methods for removing the remaining waste. The first is to pare the tent, slowly reducing the angle. Since you are paring upwards, there is now danger to spelching the opposite side of the board ...

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The second is a side-to-side sweep, which slices away the waste ...

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Finished ...

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The parts are now assembled. From the top ....

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... and the bottom ...

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Fitting the drawer ...

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My plan is to set the drawers back a mm or two ...

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Any thoughts about this?

Regards from Perth

Derek
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Derek, Thanks for taking the time to show how to use hand tools. I am a hack when it comes to using chisels or most other hand tools. I am learning a lot please keep them coming. The apothecary chest is looking great, can't wait to see it finished.
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I think the small reveal created by the set back will look good.
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