Dovetailing for Blood!
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This is the 14th chapter in the Underbench Cabinet build I have going, here in full (warning, it is long). The earlier chapters are on my website. Scroll down this page to the bottom: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/index.html

Note that this is not the usual dovetailing article - it is not a "how to" of dovetailing. More like a "why".  Hopefully, it brings forth your techniques for efficiency.


Bill and I have been discussing drawer-making. We have different approaches since our target audience is a different group. Bill is better aligned with production work, aiming to build a drawer as quickly as possible. He is less concerned with aesthetics (although his work always looks exceptionally good) and more focussed on finding shortcuts to increase speedier construction. My work is aimed at being the best I can, with a focus on traditional construction completed to as near perfection as I can muster (which sounds grander in words than in practice!). 

I argue that my drawer-making is quite speedy. The speed comes from minimising unnecessary tasks by planning ahead. This is not immediately apparent in that I use techniques that appear to add extra work. In actual effect, they reduce errors and thereby reduce the time required to tune or repair joinery. My aim is to get it as right as possible - immediately. One example if this is that I do not check whether the drawer is square after glue up ... because the drawer will dry in the drawer case, and so fitting the drawer case is what is important. 

Now the issue about fitting the drawer case is that this is only possible if the dovetailing is a flush fit, and ready to go into the drawer case. It is expected to be a tightish fit, which will need to receive just a small amount of final tuning. The level of expertise involved here is not really that high; it is more about the approach. I believe anyone can do the same, and this is the motivation to write this chapter. I am sure that Bill will likely do the same ... I look forward to learning from his approach, adding technique to my own.

The discussion started when Bill questioned why I had cut all the drawer parts (sans the drawer bottom) for this cabinet ...

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Bill makes one drawer at a time. He does this as he is concerned the wood will move .. warp or twist .. if it is allowed to rest. My argument is that speed comes from massed repetition: returning to saw all the parts separately is slow. I do not fear the drawer sides moving as I use quarter sawn timber for drawer sides, which is very stable. The wood here is Tasmanian Oak (which is actually an Australian Eucalyptus). 

The drawer-making process is divided into three stages: first comes the (half-blind) dovetailing of the sides to the front. The groove or slips for the drawer bottom is added later. 

Secondly, the drawer back is (through) dovetailed to the sides. This relies on the height of the groove, and the reason it is completed later and not up front. 

Thirdly, the drawer bottom is made and inserted.

What I wish to demonstrate here is the first stage: dovetailing the front to the sides.

Here are the parts. The Tassie Oak sides are 1/4” (6.35mm) thick and the Jarrah front is 3/4” (18mm). 

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The inside face of the drawer sides is planed to remove any machine marks ...

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We will cut Tails First, so mark the tail board ...

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To speed marking of the tails, a template (or story stick) is made. This will set out the tails for the top two rows, six drawers in all.

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The tails are sawn. Note that there is a line of blue tape to help my aging eyes know when to stop cutting! 

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An important step is to undercut the baselines. This will increase accuracy when paring ...

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Fretsaw the waste as close to the baseline as possible. I generally leave about 1mm ...

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Saw away the half sockets at each side, as usual. But now possible to set the chisel in the chisel wall and use a single down stroke to sever all the waste in the internal sockets, leaving the tail board done.

Mark the web on the drawer front. For 18-19mm drawer fronts, I keep make this 5mm wide.

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Once again, to aid visibility, blue tape is applied to underline the baseline ...

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... and the pins. Here it extends to the web line ...

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This next bit is extremely important, and can make-or-break the final result. The tails are transferred to the pin board. A single bevel knife is preferred. This will hug the wall of the socket, and slice the tape in a single stroke. 

Secondly, the tail board is held firmly by a clamp, and is positioned squarely using a combination square. The square is placed along the reference edge, which is the lower edge of the drawer side. This will switch when the other side is marked out. The importance of this technique cannot be overstated: a squared joint is a prerequisite for a perfect fit. Anything that is not square will require planing, and a lot more tuning.

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Below is the result of sawing to the line (is the sawing is more accurate than the dropped lines
Smile  In practice, the dropped lines are unnecessary if you have a decent sense of plumb) ....

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Another time saver comes in the form of deepening the kerfs. This is my version of Tage Frid’s scraper method, a “kerfing chisel”.

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With the kerfs deepened, remove all the blue tape, and deepen the base lines ...

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Undercut the baselines to create a chisel wall for each socket ...

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Chisel in the chisel wall and three moderately firm hammer blows. The chisel wall prevents the chisel moving backwards and over the baseline. This means that chiseling can start at the baseline, itself, and reduces later extra paring ...

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Split out the waste ...

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With hard Jarrah and a decent Japanese chisel, it takes me three rows to get within 3mm (1/8”) of the web line. I stop at this point ...

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This is repeated at the other end of the board ...

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Back to the Moxon Vise: the sockets are cleared by paring the remainder in 1mm slices ..

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Cleaning out the socket was facilitated by earlier extending the kerfs, and now with a corner chisel ...

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It is all about “release cuts”, as David Charlesworth has written in his articles over the years. Create a release cut, and waste will fall away without a fight. The deepened kerfs mean that there is no further paring needed at the sides of the sockets. Clearing the waste is a matter of splitting it out. The chopping is a release cut here.

Finally! The dovetailed sides are tapped into the sockets of the drawer front. The goal here is that they fit “off the saw”, and no further work is needed? Note that the small section here does not only protect the surface, but it ensures it is driven flush ...

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How did we do? Here is one side ...

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And here is the other side with the “drawer” inserted into the drawer case ...

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The drawer can be pushed flush into the drawer case, which was the target at the start ...

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Regards from Perth

Derek
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Do you have a reference to the kerf chisel?  I assume you made that.

I've used a card scraper for this, but a handle seems like a good idea.
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The link to building a kerfing chisel is: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeToo...hisel.html

Keep an eye on this as I plan to update it over the next couple of days.

Essentially, the blade is best around 0.024/5" thick. This is especially so if you are saw to the line. A thicker blade will then widen the socket, and create a loose fit. This is not noticeable if you do not saw that tightly. Still, a thinner blade enters the wood more easily.

Secondly, I use and recommend HSS and not O1 for stiffness and durability. Paint scrapers are great, 1" wide, but the steel is thick and you need to thickness it down to 0.024". Many card scrapers are also quite a bit thicker than ideal.

Thirdly, the blade needs to be drilled and pinned inside the brass ferrule to prevent lateral loosening.

Once done it is worth it: easy to use and a fantastic result.

Regards from Perth

Derek
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Well done as always Derek - thanks for the detailed explanation!

Question: Have you ever or have you considered dadoing (I think your term is rebate) the underside of the tails to establish the registration line when transferring over to the pins? Pros and cons?

I ask this realizing that over time you've achieved a level of expertise that probably doesn't require this registration. For those of us less experienced, is this a good method for consistency?

Thanks,

Doug
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(01-24-2021, 02:34 AM)Tapper Wrote: Well done as always Derek - thanks for the detailed explanation!

Question: Have you ever or have you considered dadoing (I think your term is rebate) the underside of the tails to establish the registration line when transferring over to the pins? Pros and cons?

I ask this realizing that over time you've achieved a level of expertise that probably doesn't require this registration. For those of us less experienced, is this a good method for consistency?

Thanks,

Doug

Hi Doug

Actually, I call it a rebate and in the USA it is called a "rabbet". It turns out, after some research, that "rabbet" may have been in use longer than "rebate"
Smile

Anyway, I did use the rebate for dovetails many years ago, but only a few times. It was introduced in my memory by Rob Cosman, who was taught the method by Alan Peters. He used a LN #140 skew rabbet block plane to plane the rebate.  I came up with an alternative method a few years back, and this was demonstrated about a month ago by Rob in a video. I wrote the article 2 years ago, and this was inspired when I had to make drawers with awkward angles ...

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My article, "The #140 trick is dead", is here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/The140TrickisDead.html

In the Nov/Dec edition of FWW magazine, my Lingerie Chest was published. The event was soured for me by the magazine publishing in the same edition a shop tip - using blue tape to replace the #140 trick - which was lifted straight out of my website by some little sh*t - who was paid for this tip. I wrote to FWW, but they were not interested.

Regards from Perth

Derek 
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(01-24-2021, 06:54 AM)Derek Cohen Wrote: Hi Doug

Actually, I call it a rebate and in the USA it is called a "rabbet". It turns out, after some research, that "rabbet" may have been in use longer than "rebate"
Smile

Anyway, I did use the rebate for dovetails many years ago, but only a few times. It was introduced in my memory by Rob Cosman, who was taught the method by Alan Peters. He used a LN #140 skew rabbet block plane to plane the rebate.  I came up with an alternative method a few years back, and this was demonstrated about a month ago by Rob in a video. I wrote the article 2 years ago, and this was inspired when I had to make drawers with awkward angles ...

[Image: ApothecaryChestWeekend8_html_4340d04c.jpg]

My article, "The #140 trick is dead", is here: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/The140TrickisDead.html

In the Nov/Dec edition of FWW magazine, my Lingerie Chest was published. The event was soured for me by the magazine publishing in the same edition a shop tip - using blue tape to replace the #140 trick - which was lifted straight out of my website by some little sh*t - who was paid for this tip. I wrote to FWW, but they were not interested.

Regards from Perth

Derek 

Of course it's called a "rabbet" - my bad, a little senior moment there! And I do remember seeing you demonstrate this technique either while cruising your web site or in another of your posts. Clever - thanks for the reminder and great work, as always!

Doug
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Derek, I recently paid for a subscription to Fine Woodworking and just happened to see that tip about a week ago in the digital edition. I should add that I thought it was quite clever and intend on using it in the future. It’s pretty shameless for someone to steal from you like that. I’ve found woodworkers to be generally more trustworthy and honorable than the average person, but of course we also have our share of scum bags. At any rate, well done on the lingerie chest and thanks for the great dovetailing trick, it will be put to good use.
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