Moving a building
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  Re: Moving a building by Baumholder (I need some help fro...)
I am guessing it has no floor,so it will be prone to spreading under force. Put some 4x4s under the building so they can ride on your rollers. I would brace the door opening as well. I think PVC will work as rollers, but you will have to use plenty. I think you will be able to move it with a good truck,tractor or winch. Use jacks to tweak it into position once you get it close. Take your time.
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#32
  Re: RE: Moving a building by Jack in omaha (The Amish moved a la...)
(05-03-2018, 10:04 AM)Jack in omaha Wrote: The Amish moved a large shed for me and they have a great plan. Here is the set of house dollies they use and mule. Google premier bulidings

What Jack said.

I had an Amish built shed delivered about 10 years back.  12'x20' oak framed with cedar siding.  It was built on 4x4 skids and the delivery guy moved it into place with a number of 6" pvc rollers, a high lift jack and a big steel pry bar.

uphill, in the snow.  (not kidding!)   And he made it look easy.
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#33
  Re: Moving a building by Baumholder (I need some help fro...)
A couple things.

If you use ropes... find packing quilts or similar heavy blankets to drape over each during your pull to act as brakes in case the rope snaps.  It's a safety thing.

Secondly, you might try contacting a local four wheel drive club and talk to the membership.  They might help with your pull if you offer steaks on the grill and fixins afterwards, and many of the members will have winches, block and tackles, protection for the trees and safety blankets for the winch cables.  In addition, they will be skilled in the offset winch set up needed to pull your building to it's final spot.

If that doesn't work out, all you are out is a phone call.  Yes
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#34
  Re: RE: Moving a building by FireWood ([quote='Jack in omah...)
(05-07-2018, 02:12 PM)FireWood Wrote: What Jack said.

I had an Amish built shed delivered about 10 years back.  12'x20' oak framed with cedar siding.  It was built on 4x4 skids and the delivery guy moved it into place with a number of 6" pvc rollers, a high lift jack and a big steel pry bar.

uphill, in the snow.  (not kidding!)   And he made it look easy.

I've checked online about Premier buildings, but they don't seem to be in our area.  However, there are similar companies that may have the same capabilities.  I'll check with them.  From what I've been able to see on Youtube and other sites, it looks like the sheds/buildings they are moving have floors.  Mine doesn't, so that complicates things, but doesn't make it impossible.
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#35
  Re: RE: Moving a building by BrokenOlMarine (A couple things. ...)
(05-08-2018, 07:38 AM)BrokenOlMarine Wrote: A couple things.

If you use ropes... find packing quilts or similar heavy blankets to drape over each during your pull to act as brakes in case the rope snaps.  It's a safety thing.

Secondly, you might try contacting a local four wheel drive club and talk to the membership.  They might help with your pull if you offer steaks on the grill and fixins afterwards, and many of the members will have winches, block and tackles, protection for the trees and safety blankets for the winch cables.  In addition, they will be skilled in the offset winch set up needed to pull your building to it's final spot.

If that doesn't work out, all you are out is a phone call.  Yes

Jim, Thanks for the suggestions!   From watching videos on pulling stumps with winches, I have recently learned about the blankets on the rope.  It makes sense, but outside my experience until now, so thank you.  

I REALLY like the idea of the four wheel drive club.  In Eastern TN we are sure to have some groups like that.  I may already know someone with a jeep, but I had not thought about asking for their assistance.  Thanks!
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#36
  Re: RE: Moving a building by Baumholder ([quote='BrokenOlMari...)
(05-08-2018, 03:00 PM)Baumholder Wrote: Jim, Thanks for the suggestions!   From watching videos on pulling stumps with winches, I have recently learned about the blankets on the rope.  It makes sense, but outside my experience until now, so thank you.  

I REALLY like the idea of the four wheel drive club.  In Eastern TN we are sure to have some groups like that.  I may already know someone with a jeep, but I had not thought about asking for their assistance.  Thanks!
to be honest I think that might be too much for what you are doing.  Slow and steady allows for immediate reaction to any unexpected movement, if you pull it a bit too quickly it can fall of whatever type rollers you are using.  I moved lots of machinery with pipe on timber and had the occasional catch that stopped the pipe and allowed for machines to drop in a corner, steel and bolts tend to hold together better than old nails and wood
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#37
  Re: RE: Moving a building by Bob10 ([quote='Baumholder' ...)
(05-14-2018, 10:44 PM)Bob10 Wrote: to be honest I think that might be too much for what you are doing.  Slow and steady allows for immediate reaction to any unexpected movement, if you pull it a bit too quickly it can fall of whatever type rollers you are using.  I moved lots of machinery with pipe on timber and had the occasional catch that stopped the pipe and allowed for machines to drop in a corner, steel and bolts tend to hold together better than old nails and wood

I don't expect this to be easy, but it will be slow and hopefully steady... Yes  

Also, since I didn't make it clear when I asked for help.  This project will not be attempted until July or August this summer.  I asked now because I need to plan and gather the materials/equipment I need.  I greatly appreciate all the suggestions, help and cautions.
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#38
  Re: RE: Moving a building by Baumholder ([quote='Bob10' pid='...)
(05-15-2018, 06:33 AM)Baumholder Wrote: I don't expect this to be easy, but it will be slow and hopefully steady... Yes  

Also, since I didn't make it clear when I asked for help.  This project will not be attempted until July or August this summer.  I asked now because I need to plan and gather the materials/equipment I need.  I greatly appreciate all the suggestions, help and cautions.

Last time I did it...I drove a forklift in the middle and lifted. Then backed my trailer underneath is and put it on the trailer. I had to build a spreader bar for the forklift to get across the width of the building, and a frame for the trailer since the building was wider than the trailer. Filed a permit with the state and borrowed some overwidth tags, and had at it. On the other end I reversed the above steps.
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#39
  Re: RE: Moving a building by Baumholder ([quote='FireWood' pi...)
(05-08-2018, 02:52 PM)Baumholder Wrote: I've checked online about Premier buildings, but they don't seem to be in our area.  However, there are similar companies that may have the same capabilities.  I'll check with them.  From what I've been able to see on Youtube and other sites, it looks like the sheds/buildings they are moving have floors.  Mine doesn't, so that complicates things, but doesn't make it impossible.

You do not need a floor you need to stabilize the thing by braces and get a couple beams.
I watched a tv guy in alasaka move a log cabin by hiself it was Morgan Beasley in Mountain Men a year or two ago should be on you tube or on line.
Also the Kirchners moved several in Alaska the last frontier
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#40
  Re: Moving a building by Baumholder (I need some help fro...)
It has taken me a long time, but I/we finally moved our old garage in summer 2020.  I've tried to cut and paste my daughter's blog entry about the move since she included pictures.  I don't know if this will work, but I'll give it a try.  If this doesn't work, I'll try again since someone will be able to tell me what I did wrong.  Just in case, here's the link to her blog about this job and other projects.

https://warnerinstituteblog.wordpress.com/


If you can see the pictures, you will see that this was an elegant and highly professional operation....On second thought, maybe it will be best if you can't see the pictures.  However, I can say confidently that at no time during the two day move did anyone say..."Hey y'all, watch this!"  

Thanks again for all your suggestions and advice,
Michael

That time we moved a building
JULY 16, 2020 LEAVE A COMMENT
Our most exciting and stressful project to date (at least I think so) has been moving this building. This little red structure is something we affectionately call the carriage house. Did it have carriages in it? We don’t actually know. Does the Historical Society consider it a historical structure? They sure do. And without it I’d have no where to park my mower so it’s obviously needed.
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I took the above picture the day I signed the papers to buy the house. It is a perfectly fine structure it was just blocking the (then and one day again) beautiful garden so mom and dad decided to change that. Last summer we had a pad poured after we got approval from the city and historical commission to move it. And then dad had a year to agonize and plan. So the first step was to stabilize and brace the building to make it as solid as possible
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Then my wonderful friends Zack, Andrew, and Jesse built a rock wall out of the many many stones I pulled out of the garden. Isn’t it a nice looking little wall??
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And then we began doing the insane. We pulled a building on top of that wall…. I don’t think anyone felt super confident in the wall except for Dad. But kudos to Zack, Andrew, and Jesse because that thing worked! We used the truck as a movable anchor at first and attached tow straps around and to the building. We jacked the building up and put it on round fence poles as rollers. Then we used come-alongs to actually move it. So little by little this building moved.
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And I’m talking LITTLE by little. We had a total of 78ft to move and each come-along pulled around 3ft, if we’re being generous. At times we’d have to stop and reset to make tiny adjustments in what we were doing so we didn’t even complete 3ft of movement each reset. It took 2 full days of constant work, pulling and adjusting to move this thing.
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After we ran out of rock wall we built a track with scrap wood we pulled out of the house when we demo-ed the upstairs.
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That worked brilliantly too. I don’t have a picture of it but Jesse and Andrew also fashioned a second track that ran next to the existing track to add stability. That definitely helped. Throughout the adjustments we used the truck to move from and the trees along the property line. Here are some progress pictures.
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As you can imagine these were taken when we finally got it over the pad. I was very excited. About midday on day 2 I thought it really would never get there. BUT IT DID! Once it got there we were able to use the fence posts to move the building as perfectly as possible. While we were getting nearer to the pad Gordon showed up and gave us a hand! Thank you very much to him for the help too!
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As you can see the walls worked very hard
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So just a couple of my favorite before and afters:
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I don’t know what you guys think but I think it looks phenomenal!! Next up I hope to post about the finish work on the carriage house!
And I just want to say a massive thank you again to my wonderful friends. We couldn’t have done it without them so thank you for 2 straight days of micro adjustments and wall building [Image: 1f499.svg]
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