selling all machines question
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  Re: RE: selling all machines question by Phil Thien (Clearly these guys a...)
(05-17-2018, 08:43 AM)Phil Thien Wrote: Clearly these guys are going to offer half of any asking price they see.

So double your prices.

No his prices on the machines I would buy are about what they are worth, then there is the other half that aren't worth the drive for TO ME that are included and involve work to get and more work to get rid of.  Not a lot of upside if any at what he is asking
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  Re: RE: selling all machines question by Phil Thien (Clearly these guys a...)
(05-17-2018, 08:43 AM)Phil Thien Wrote: Clearly these guys are going to offer half of any asking price they see.

So double your prices.

I buy and sell enough machines to know what they are worth in my area. You can put any price on it that you want, but I'm still not going to pay more than about half of what it is worth if I'm buying the whole shebang. Either the original owner has to get jacked around to get full price, or I have to. I'm not doing all the work and getting jacked for free, my time is valuable.

I get enough callbacks to believe that I'm fair, even dreamers come to their senses eventually.
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  Re: selling all machines question by Pirate (Thinking of the futu...)
Me Personally I think you would get more for them selling them separate.  Like me I would love to have a drill press like you have but do not need it all.

Last someone may buy it all and only need one or two pieces of it and sell the rest for what he paid to you.
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  Re: RE: selling all machines question by jlanciani ([quote='Phil Thien' ...)
(05-17-2018, 12:46 PM)jlanciani Wrote: I get enough callbacks to believe that I'm fair, even dreamers come to their senses eventually.

If you approach them nicely you can often get the call to just come take them around here.
Phydeaux said "Loving your enemy and doing good for those that hurt you does not preclude killing them if they make that necessary."

You got something on your nose there, Peter.....

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#32
  Re: selling all machines question by Pirate (Thinking of the futu...)
My thought is that woodworkers acquire one machine at a time and skills and budget allow.  Trying to sell a whole shop means you're looking for that one rare individual who is looking to upgrade all at once.

So unless there's been a fire, etc. not many will have the budget to buy the whole deal and if they do have the budget they might be looking for new(er) stuff.
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  Re: RE: selling all machines question by jlanciani ([quote='Phil Thien' ...)
(05-17-2018, 10:47 AM)Bob10 Wrote: No his prices on the machines I would buy are about what they are worth, then there is the other half that aren't worth the drive for TO ME that are included and involve work to get and more work to get rid of.  Not a lot of upside if any at what he is asking

(05-17-2018, 12:46 PM)jlanciani Wrote: I buy and sell enough machines to know what they are worth in my area. You can put any price on it that you want, but I'm still not going to pay more than about half of what it is worth if I'm buying the whole shebang. Either the original owner has to get jacked around to get full price, or I have to. I'm not doing all the work and getting jacked for free, my time is valuable.

I get enough callbacks to believe that I'm fair, even dreamers come to their senses eventually.

I was just joking, don't get your panties in a wad.
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  Re: selling all machines question by Pirate (Thinking of the futu...)
(05-16-2018, 10:24 AM)Pirate Wrote: Thinking of the future.
How easy would it be to sell a whole shop of mostly older woodworking machines, in 1 sale?
I would assume the price would have to be a lot less, than if tools were sold individually.
Just wondering how much the individual tool prices would have to be cut to sell in 1 lot.
Here is a list of examples, and individual expected selling prices.

What would you think a buyer of all would pay?

All tools are running perfect.
1946 1 HP Unisaw with Jet Exacta fence                                  $600
1951 Delta 14" bs with 1HP motor, riser, and Jet Fence             $350
1978 Rockwell Invicte 13" stationary planer                              $350
1985? Dewalt 7790 12" ras                                                     $250
1951 Craftsman 100, floor dp                                                  $125
PM 50 6" gold jointer with solid carbide knives                          $250
Craftsman 16 gal shop vac                                                       $20
Craftsman 2 hp belt drive compressor                                      $125
                                                                                       ______
                                                                                Total  $2070

You'll never get $2k for all of that.  I'll adjust your per-piece value, sold in a lot and I'll give my opinion on individual sales-

For the whole lot:


1946 1 HP Unisaw with Jet Exacta fence                                  $200
1951 Delta 14" bs with 1HP motor, riser, and Jet Fence             $200
1978 Rockwell Invicte 13" stationary planer                              $300
1985? Dewalt 7790 12" ras                                                     $100
1951 Craftsman 100, floor dp                                                  $100 (need pics/etc, might be worth more)
PM 50 6" gold jointer with solid carbide knives                          $400
Craftsman 16 gal shop vac                                                      $   0
Craftsman 2 hp belt drive compressor                                      $ 50
                                                                                       ______
                                                                                Total  $1350


For individual sales:


1946 1 HP Unisaw with Jet Exacta fence                                  $300
1951 Delta 14" bs with 1HP motor, riser, and Jet Fence             $300
1978 Rockwell Invicte 13" stationary planer                              $350
1985? Dewalt 7790 12" ras                                                     $175
1951 Craftsman 100, floor dp                                                  $150 (need pics/etc, might be worth more)
PM 50 6" gold jointer with solid carbide knives                          $450
Craftsman 16 gal shop vac                                                      $  20
Craftsman 2 hp belt drive compressor                                      $  75
                                                                                       ______
                                                                                Total  $1820


Like many have said, the whole lot is most likely going to go to someone that wants one or two pieces and will re-sell the rest.  They will also have 2 whole days of labor, loading and unload, sorting, etc.  They also have to have a place to store, clean, advertise and deal with CL i d i o t s.

Most likely, someone starting out in the hobby doesn't have the chunk of money sitting around to buy a used lot and those that have a little nest egg that have worked 45 years and want to outfit a shop aren't going to buy used stuff much.
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