Sawstop prices increasing February 1
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  Re: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Cian (If you were consider...)
Subscribe and save is a good way to get a little discount, and to stock up if you have many employees.
I know of a shop that has 5 SS's. Yea, they fire off a cartridge at least once a month from what I've been told.

I use subscribe and save on bulk food, vitamins, trash bags etc purchases. Saves 5-15%, depending on the number of items you get.
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  Re: RE: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by WxMan (Fred, I don't know a...)
(01-12-2019, 12:57 PM)WxMan Wrote: Fred, I don't know about the subscribe business.  Like you, I'd question the sanity or safety practices of somebody who has a regular stream of cartridges coming into the shop.  

Schools, commercial shops with more than one or two SSs, Jobsite saws shared among trade people, or club saws are notorious for brake activation. I know a shop owner who threw out its aluminum miter fence after it alone accounted for two misfires in one month, despite repeated reminders given to his workers. It really is about usage. I use my saw about once or twice a week, but if I use it daily and allow others who are less careful to use it, the chances of activation may become higher.

Simon
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#22
  Re: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Cian (If you were consider...)
Makes sense.  I thought about commercial shops with many saws while I was out pushing snow with the ATV this morning.

I wonder if those shops get a break on insurance because they've installed SS machines.

It only took one $130 "oops" for me to ay attention to things like blade geometry.  I keep the blade and fired cartridge around as a reminder and to show folks that the thing works.
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  Re: RE: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by WxMan (Makes sense.  I thou...)
(01-12-2019, 03:15 PM)WxMan Wrote: I wonder if those shops get a break on insurance because they've installed SS machines.

It only took one $130 "oops" for me to ay attention to things like blade geometry.  I keep the blade and fired cartridge around as a reminder and to show folks that the thing works.

Yes, according to some, but I think it is just one factor for a shop.

Did you turn your "experience" into something like this?: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/11124

Simon
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#24
  Re: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Cian (If you were consider...)
No; had never seen that.

Maybe I will!  Cheapo mechanism would be all it takes.

Thanks for the point out.
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#25
  Re: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Cian (If you were consider...)
"Looks to me like the $69 one is a "subscribe" deal. Which begs the question: is someone really so careless they would "subscribe" to get cartridges?"
--FredHargis

A while back, a Fellow Woodworker sent me a link to, I believe,  the SawStop Facebook page. There was an comment from a home hobby shop poster which included a picture of his collection of 12 + blades and the attached fired cartridges hanging on his shop wall....
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  Re: RE: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Ray Newman ("Looks to me like th...)
(01-12-2019, 10:10 PM)Ray Newman Wrote: "Looks to me like the $69 one is a "subscribe" deal. Which begs the question: is someone really so careless they would "subscribe" to get cartridges?"
--FredHargis

A while back, a Fellow Woodworker sent me a link to, I believe,  the SawStop Facebook page. There was an comment from a home hobby shop poster which included a picture of his collection of 12 + blades and the attached fired cartridges hanging on his shop wall....

He must be someone who doesn't trust the finger saving technology completely, so he test fires his at the beginning of each month as part of his monthly inspection routine. Laugh Laugh

Proof? All his neighbors have got one of his SawStop clocks!  Winkgrin

Simon
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#27
  Re: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Cian (If you were consider...)
(01-12-2019, 03:15 PM)WxMan Wrote: I wonder if those shops get a break on insurance because they've installed SS machines.
When I was looking to buy a SS, I went to a custom millwork shop that was selling a used ICS. I had asked him about the changeover of saws to SS...he said his insurance gave him a small break but more importantly to him was the increased safety to his employees. He said they do get careless at times, and the saw I was looking at had been set up for dado work only, and had been set off 3 times. He was selling it because a fire int eh finishing room smoke "damaged" all his tools and the insurance paid for new ones. I didn't buy it, but mostly because it was 3 phase...had no damage that I could see. That said, I would bet the insurance thing is a variable across businesses and insurance companies.
I started with absolutely nothing. Now, thanks to years of hard work, careful planning, and perseverance, I find I still have most of it left.
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#28
  Re: Sawstop prices increasing February 1 by Cian (If you were consider...)
When I worked in the museum industry, we had 6 tablesaws in the shop. I tried to get them to buy SS, using the insurance reduction as a sales ploy. I was told that we weren't eligible for a rate reduction, lol. I just don't think they wanted to spend the money.
I no longer build museums but don't want to change my name. My new job is a lot less stressful. Life is much better.

Garry
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