Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen
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  Re: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Bibliophile 13 (I have a fairly comp...)
I have a large shoulder plane, LN, that is never used. But my little clifton 410 is used vey often, one of my most used planes.
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  Re: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Bibliophile 13 (I have a fairly comp...)
Not an expert in joint pain and stiffness, but we are not talking about the miniature shoulder plane vs the large shoulder plane. If I were having a pain with my hands, I would rather use a lighter tool especially for a prolonged period.

Simon
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#20
  Re: RE: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Handplanesandmore (Not an expert in joi...)
I have both.  I prefer the Veritas for 2 reasons:

1. Ergonomics.  For me, it just fits my hand better.  I prefer to remove the pin at the rear of the handle.

2. Side iron adjustment screws.  I really like this feature.

I have medium and large sizes. I like the extra mass of a large shoulder plane an in some instances.
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#21
  Re: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Bibliophile 13 (I have a fairly comp...)
I have the LN Medium and Veritas Large. I much prefer my Veritas for the ergonomics, but I agree with Derek. It hardly gets used, and I wish I had purchased the Veritas medium over the the LN. In most of the reviews I've seen of shoulder planes, the Veritas wins - primarily because of its ergonomics and the adjustment screws. This is one area where Veritas consistently beats LN, IMO.
Still Learning,

Allan Hill
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#22
  Re: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Bibliophile 13 (I have a fairly comp...)
Afraid mine isn't made any more...

Auburn Tool Co.   No. 181....1.25" wide, skewed iron,,,cost me a whopping $10 a few years ago.... Winkgrin
Show me a picture, I'll build a project from that
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#23
  Re: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Bibliophile 13 (I have a fairly comp...)
I have Rob's stuff. Haven't used enough to comment but I agree with the points presented above.

Just to confuse the issue, there are the HNT Gordon shoulder planes. You'd have to ask Derek about those.
Thanks,  Curt
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#24
  Re: Opinions, Please, on Large Shoulder Plane - Vertias vs. Lie-Nielsen by Bibliophile 13 (I have a fairly comp...)
Folks, thanks for the insights!

My reasons for asking about the large shoulder plane are twofold:
1. My LV plow (with conversion kit) is fine for making small rabbets for furniture-scale stuff, but I want something to clean up after it. I have a Stanley 78, which I don't really like to use (uncomfortable, rickety fence, sloppy depth adjustment--just the usual complaints), but I keep reaching for it to clean up rabbets I've cut with my plow. I keep thinking, gee, I wish I had a good shoulder plane in this size...
2. I have been making a lot of big M&T joints. And by big I mean tenon cheeks I'm cutting with my rip saw rather than a tenon saw. (Mostly for interior doors, bed frames, and whatnot.) It would be nice, I think, to have a shoulder plane that could trim not only the shoulders but also the tenon cheeks. I know there are other ways to do that, but again, I keep reaching for my poor ol' Stanley 78 to do the job, which it's not very good at. I really like the width of the 78 for these kinds of jobs.

That said, I'll definitely consider the medium LV shoulder plane, especially since this purchase will be a splurge. I don't know how many more big M&T joints I'll be making in the future.
Steve S.
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