David Charlesworth's personal hand tools in estate auction
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Marv did the wheat carving on Mike’s saws, though I’m not sure if he was the only one that did.  Marv’s were very fine and nicer than virtually any I’ve ever seen.  We communicated quite a bit years ago and shared with (and later on SMC) a tool he made to carve saws. IIRC, it was a piece of 1/2” EMT with part of the end cut away, with the remainder bent & sharpened

I remain curious what happened to Mike W.  His saw making was a family affair!

I have a complete set of Foley ratchet bars.
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(12-04-2022, 07:38 AM)Tony Z Wrote: Marv did the wheat carving on Mike’s saws, though I’m not sure if he was the only one that did.  Marv’s were very fine and nicer than virtually any I’ve ever seen.  We communicated quite a bit years ago and shared with (and later on SMC) a tool he made to carve saws. IIRC, it was a piece of 1/2” EMT with part of the end cut away, with the remainder bent & sharpened

I remain curious what happened to Mike W.  His saw making was a family affair!

I have a complete set of Foley ratchet bars.

I have two Wenzloff saws.  It was his saw that taught me what sharp really meant for a handsaw.  Had the pleasure of meeting him at more than one WIA.  Super nice and humble guy.  I know he and his wife in the past few years have had some health issues, so the saw making took a back door to taking care of that.  I don't think his son ever filled the gap.  About the same time, there were new makers popping up that were competition (Bad Axe for one), so maybe he dropped the saw making entirely.  There's not much on the internet that I can find to know any more details.\\

To tie this to the thread, Charlesworth's Mike Wenzloff dovetail saw sold for £600.00 ($738 US). As Derek mentioned, this is far above what a retail value would be. Pre-owned Wenzloff saws rarely command more than $200.
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(12-05-2022, 08:15 AM)AHill Wrote: I have two Wenzloff saws.  It was his saw that taught me what sharp really meant for a handsaw.  Had the pleasure of meeting him at more than one WIA.  Super nice and humble guy.  I know he and his wife in the past few years have had some health issues, so the saw making took a back door to taking care of that.  I don't think his son ever filled the gap.  About the same time, there were new makers popping up that were competition (Bad Axe for one), so maybe he dropped the saw making entirely.  There's not much on the internet that I can find to know any more details.\\

To tie this to the thread, Charlesworth's Mike Wenzloff dovetail saw sold for £600.00 ($738 US).  As Derek mentioned, this is far above what a retail value would be.  Pre-owned Wenzloff saws rarely command more than $200.

Pre-owned dovetail saws or all of his saws? I do not make a habit of selling tools, though with the recent pandemic and the prices tools have reached, I did sell a few items that were not used. I have rip and CC Wenzloff half-back saws and Mike's version of a Disston #16. Very nice saws.

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(12-05-2022, 02:44 PM)Tony Z Wrote: Pre-owned dovetail saws or all of his saws?  I do not make a habit of selling tools, though with the recent pandemic and the prices tools have reached, I did sell a few items that were not used.  I have rip and CC Wenzloff half-back saws and Mike's version of a Disston #16.  Very nice saws.

T.Z.

Dovetail or panel saws.  I saw a dovetail saw for $150.   A half-back panel saw for $175.  Price varies by handle material and saw condition, of course.  Personally, I think those prices are a bargain.  A new LN dovetail runs around $175.  A new Gramercy (Tools for Working Wood) dovetail is $340 and they are out of stock.  A new Bad Axe 10" dovetail sold through Lee Valley is $225.  A new Rob Cosman dovetail saw is $249.  If you can find a Wenzloff saw for sale in good condition for around $150, it's a good deal.  You're getting a hand made and hand sharpened saw for a pretty good price.
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Allan, you  saw bids early on in the auction. Serious bidders either bid high at the start to drive others away, or bid only at the end. I noticed a basic #5 Stanley, albeit with an IBC blade/chipbreaker, at £200+, and there were hours to go before the end of the auction. Serious bids come in the last minutes.

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(12-05-2022, 09:53 PM)Derek Cohen Wrote: Allan, you  saw bids early on in the auction. Serious bidders either bid high at the start to drive others away, or bid only at the end. I noticed a basic #5 Stanley, albeit with an IBC blade/chipbreaker, at £200+, and there were hours to go before the end of the auction. Serious bids come in the last minutes.

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Derek
Derek,

The low bids I was citing were not from the Charlesworth auction.  They were prices from other hand tool dealers e.g. Jim Bode.
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