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I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - woodmats - 02-04-2020
Seems like most of my project end up being painted pieces, half for indoor use and half for outdoor use, mostly using latex paint or SW polyurethane trim paint. I have found that I'm not very good at using a brush so I would like to use a sprayer. I have the HF airless sprayer and it does a pretty good job but boy, what a mess it makes, even though I can arrange part of the basement to use as a paint booth with a good exhaust fan in a window. It also seems like it takes a quart just to prime it and that is tough with $80/gallon paint. Is there a better choice that doesn't break the bank? I realize that I may also need to upgrade my small 12 gallon compressor.
Mats
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - farmerj111 - 02-04-2020
I too hate painting. Have you considered one of the small corded paint sprayers like this Wagner?
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/the-ninja-reg-foodi-trade-digital-air-fry-oven-with-convection/5381825
I've been wanting to try one for painting small projects, but have yet to pull the trigger.
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - woodmats - 02-04-2020
(02-04-2020, 10:49 AM)farmerj111 Wrote: I too hate painting. Have you considered one of the small corded paint sprayers like this Wagner?I tried the link but I get a ninja
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/the-ninja-reg-foodi-trade-digital-air-fry-oven-with-convection/5381825
I've been wanting to try one for painting small projects, but have yet to pull the trigger.
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RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - Cooler - 02-04-2020
(02-04-2020, 11:30 AM)woodmats Wrote: I tried the link but I get a ninja
Look here. The site earns money by referrals so I would not put much stock in the reviews. It does make a good list for further research.
: https://www.bestreviews.guide/handheld-paint-sprayers?origin=google&google_params[matchtype]=b&google_params[network]=g&google_params[device]=c&google_params[creative]=381543623185&google_params[keyword]=&google_params[adposition]=1t1&google_params[adgroupid]=76772379734&google_params[campaignid]=6490998898&bs=&google_params[feeditemid]=&google_params[targetid]=dsa-19959388920&google_params[loc_interest_ms]=&google_params[loc_physical_ms]=9004239&google_params[devicemodel]=&google_params[target]=&new_api=true&dest=0&sys_id=0|254&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4OrNjL645wIVC1YMCh3bdQfoEAAYASAAEgK-d_D_BwE
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - farmerj111 - 02-04-2020
This was the one I was trying to link....
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N6XXB1A?pf_rd_p=ab873d20-a0ca-439b-ac45-cd78f07a84d8&pf_rd_r=2H7RE5Z0BMQ5CZQ22WWA
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - jteneyck - 02-04-2020
Value priced airless paint sprayers are good for spraying larger areas but not a great choice for furniture or cabinets. For those applications a compressor driven conversion gun will apply a higher quality finish and use and waste less doing it. Among this type of gun it's very hard to beat an Accuspray for finish quality, ease of clean-up, and absolute minimum wasted product. One like this: Link. The PPS H/O cup shown with it holds 28 ozs. This type of gun is not for painting walls or fences, it's for cabinets and furniture as I said.
I use a Qualspray gun from Homestead Finishing. It's a bottom feed gun, but uses the same PPS pressurized cup as on the Accuspray. Clean up is fast and easy. I spray everything from water based dyes to shellac to clearcoats to pigmented lacquers to BM Advance with this one gun by changing needle/nozzle sets; amazing versatility. The Accuspray gun has the same versatility, at lower initial cost, but you have to replace the needle and nozzles over time. This isn't always a bad thing, like when you want to spray something really nasty where clean-up would be a real pain. With the Accuspray gun you can just toss the nozzle, clean or replace the needle, install a new nozzle and be ready to go with a different product. It's the same with the PPS cup system. It uses a replaceable liner and filter lid. You can either clean and reuse them, as I do when spraying WB products, or throw them out and install new ones.
Spraying doesn't have to be drudgery cleaning up or waste a lot of product if you choose the right gun.
John
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - Willyou - 02-04-2020
Look for a LVLP (low volume low pressure) gun. These usually work with less pressure and have minimal over spray. Mine requires only 4-6 psi. So, it might work with your small compressor. There are a couple of Youtube videos about a Sprayit model. Favorable reviews and pretty low cost. Home Depot sells them on their website.
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - woodmats - 02-06-2020
(02-04-2020, 05:14 PM)jteneyck Wrote: Value priced airless paint sprayers are good for spraying larger areas but not a great choice for furniture or cabinets. For those applications a compressor driven conversion gun will apply a higher quality finish and use and waste less doing it. Among this type of gun it's very hard to beat an Accuspray for finish quality, ease of clean-up, and absolute minimum wasted product. One like this: Link. The PPS H/O cup shown with it holds 28 ozs. This type of gun is not for painting walls or fences, it's for cabinets and furniture as I said.
I use a Qualspray gun from Homestead Finishing. It's a bottom feed gun, but uses the same PPS pressurized cup as on the Accuspray. Clean up is fast and easy. I spray everything from water based dyes to shellac to clearcoats to pigmented lacquers to BM Advance with this one gun by changing needle/nozzle sets; amazing versatility. The Accuspray gun has the same versatility, at lower initial cost, but you have to replace the needle and nozzles over time. This isn't always a bad thing, like when you want to spray something really nasty where clean-up would be a real pain. With the Accuspray gun you can just toss the nozzle, clean or replace the needle, install a new nozzle and be ready to go with a different product. It's the same with the PPS cup system. It uses a replaceable liner and filter lid. You can either clean and reuse them, as I do when spraying WB products, or throw them out and install new ones.
Spraying doesn't have to be drudgery cleaning up or waste a lot of product if you choose the right gun.
John
Thanks John, I have a friend that have one of those Wagner sprayers and he agrees with you. Basically, similar drawbacks s my HF airless gun and I was looking more for something to paint smaller pieces and cabinets like you recommended above. Do the Accuspray and Qualspray handle latex?
Mats
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - woodmats - 02-06-2020
(02-04-2020, 08:18 PM)Willyou Wrote: Look for a LVLP (low volume low pressure) gun. These usually work with less pressure and have minimal over spray. Mine requires only 4-6 psi. So, it might work with your small compressor. There are a couple of Youtube videos about a Sprayit model. Favorable reviews and pretty low cost. Home Depot sells them on their website.
Does it handle Latex paint? I have a unit very similar to the Sprayit gun and I also have the HF unit. I see Youtube clips where they show using these guns to spray latex paint but I haven't been very successful to get the latex thin enough to work, even using an oversized nozzle.
RE: I Hate Painting - 2. Need sprayer advice. - Willyou - 02-06-2020
I have the Sprayit (W-71) that I bought from Home Depot with a 1.5 mm tip. It will not spray latex without thinning it more than it should be thinned, IMO. But, I also have a look-a-like (also W-71) with a 2.0 mm tip I purchased ($24) from an Ebay seller. It shoots latex beautifully. I think both guns are Iwata W-71 knock-offs. I can't accurately tell you how much thinning is necessary because the latex I was using as a test was from a 1/2 can that had been on the shelf for a while and it was a cool 60 degree day. So, I thinned it using a #4 Ford viscosity cup to a 2 minute rate. This worked very nicely. Without thinning, it would hardly flow through the #4. I don't know how this compares to paint from a fresh can.
BTW, The W-71s (Iwata knock-offs) appear to be either a side (swivel) cup or a bottom (siphon) cup. The sprayit brand also comes with the more conventional top cup. They are a bit more expensive.