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RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - Bob10 - 06-03-2022
(05-24-2022, 05:43 AM)®smpr_fi_mac® Wrote: It's a 1953 Powermatic 16" CE.
I have a couple of the E16 models moving them alone was tricky. One I had to strap the top to the trailer and lower slower slowly so it didn't tip out. The second one I used a cherry picker to get out. darn things are heavy
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - Bob Vaughan - 06-06-2022
(06-03-2022, 01:30 PM)®smpr_fi_mac® Wrote: A buddy loaned me his portable bench top planer while this one is down (selling the 100 was a mistake!) and man, is it SLOW. 3/32" max cut...in pine. I'm milling down walnut planks for a table. I'm forced to cut at 1/64" at a time to prevent tearout. It's torture!
I've never had the opportunity to use one of those benchtop planers. What you report confirms my suspicions about their effectiveness.
Decades back I did a big redwood job and only had a Powermatic 100 planer. I started planing first thing in the morning. By 1:00 AM I'd filled eleven 55 gallon drum liner bags with shavings. Once you become accustomed to that kind of effectiveness, its got to be frustrating to go to a suitcase screamer.
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - ®smpr_fi_mac® - 06-06-2022
(06-06-2022, 08:12 AM)Bob Vaughan Wrote: I've never had the opportunity to use one of those benchtop planers. What you report confirms my suspicions about their effectiveness.
Decades back I did a big redwood job and only had a Powermatic 100 planer. I started planing first thing in the morning. By 1:00 AM I'd filled eleven 55 gallon drum liner bags with shavings. Once you become accustomed to that kind of effectiveness, its got to be frustrating to go to a suitcase screamer.
Before I picked up the 100, I had a Rigid portable planer. It wasn't *terrible*, but was still slower and much louder. This planer, a Harbor Freight piece, is terrible.
On the OWWM forum, I asked a question about setting up the CE but haven't gotten any responses yet. Would you mind taking a look at it and helping me out?
https://owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=233645
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - ®smpr_fi_mac® - 06-19-2022
It still needs some fine tuning to get rid of some sniping on the outfeed and the knives need to be set a *bit* better, and there's a bad bearing on the head but it runs!
https://youtu.be/JQEfPdkrSIE
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - Ray Newman - 06-20-2022
Well done! Enjoy seeing those old made in the USA machines brought back to life.
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - MstrCarpenter - 06-21-2022
I love to see old woodworking machines outperforming their new so called "replacements".
I brought an old Parks 12" planer back to life following Bob Vaughan's tutorial, and advice. It cuts beautifully! And it actually sounds like a powerful woodworking machine as yours does. I use a 3-1/4" x 12" x 6" round sheet metal adapter, reduced to 3", and can use a shop vac with a Thien Baffle on a 30 gal. barrel to keep up with the chips. It's easier to swap out a barrel than empty the D.C.. It generates a lot of chips, real fast.
I also have a 24" that still has babbitt bearings and a square cutter-head. Variable speed is accomplished by positioning a leather sandwich wheel (changed to rubber) at the appropriate distance from center of the drive disk. Toro came out with a new infinitely variable speed riding lawnmower in the 1980's based on the same principal; from the 1800"s. A lot of snow blowers use this design now too.
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - ®smpr_fi_mac® - 06-22-2022
(06-21-2022, 11:24 PM)MstrCarpenter Wrote: I love to see old woodworking machines outperforming their new so called "replacements".
I brought an old Parks 12" planer back to life following Bob Vaughan's tutorial, and advice. It cuts beautifully! And it actually sounds like a powerful woodworking machine as yours does. I use a 3-1/4" x 12" x 6" round sheet metal adapter, reduced to 3", and can use a shop vac with a Thien Baffle on a 30 gal. barrel to keep up with the chips. It's easier to swap out a barrel than empty the D.C.. It generates a lot of chips, real fast.
I also have a 24" that still has babbitt bearings and a square cutter-head. Variable speed is accomplished by positioning a leather sandwich wheel (changed to rubber) at the appropriate distance from center of the drive disk. Toro came out with a new infinitely variable speed riding lawnmower in the 1980's based on the same principal; from the 1800"s. A lot of snow blowers use this design now too.
Oh yeah, the Powermatic 100 this is replacing was a joy to use. If I weren't tilting to building tables I wouldn't have upgraded the size. For that one I built a dust chute from plywood; I'll do the same here. My DC is a 3hp Frakenunit that has a pair of 40 gallon bags that are easy-ish to empty.
I used Bob's video on that planer and on this one!
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - ®smpr_fi_mac® - 06-30-2022
I built a dust chute for it this week. I still get a little blow back out the front so I'll add some side ramps inside to see if that helps.
I think the bushing on the outfeed bed roller needs attention. It occasionally screeches, and when it happens, the roller slows or stops.
https://youtu.be/PswmnCEQ8as
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - Stwood_ - 07-05-2022
So there is no kickback fingers/setup on this machine?
RE: Another old planer coming back to life! - ®smpr_fi_mac® - 07-07-2022
(07-05-2022, 01:16 PM)Stwood_ Wrote: So there is no kickback fingers/setup on this machine?
Nope. Same setup as a Model 100. In/out feed rollers, bed rollers, cutter head, chip breaker, and pressure bar.