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Router table with no insert plate question - dlgWoodWork - 12-09-2015
I am going to build a router table. It will be sort of like the Norm Abrams router table. My last one was built into my table saw. But I have upgraded to a Sawstop and decided I would rather have a stand alone router table.
My question is, do I have to use an insert plate? 90% of my routing is done on the router table. I will be using a Freud FT1700 router. I can adjust the height and change bits above the table.
If I make the top strong is there any reason I need an insert plate? Only thing I can think of would be the inserts around the bits. My last router plate had a 2" hole and that worked for everything I ever needed.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - mike4244 - 12-09-2015
If you use various diameter cutters then insert plates would be needed.
You indicate that your routing is mostly done with 2" and less cutters.
In that case a 2" hole will suffice.My router table has a 3" cut out.I also have a 3/8 " plywood auxillary table with a 1-1/2" cut out that installs over the main table.
mike
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - Steve N - 12-09-2015
Sizing for a rectangular plate to put the round inserts for different bit sizes into would be much easier to do, than trying to make a perfectly round insert hole. Plus the throat plates are threaded so you can screw the round inserts into them, magnetic, or screwed down to the plate. How would you affix them otherwise? For something that is such easy work, and the plates aren't incredibly expensive. I guess I just don't see a reason not to just mount a plate.
This kid makes it look easy
It really is 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4utHdZO3iA
Edit to add, you will want different size throat plates, maybe not today, but you will.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - Alan S - 12-09-2015
You do not need a router plate: bolting the router directly to the top works fine. However, keep in mind that most materials you use for a router table top are thicker than a router plate in order to have the needed rigidity. Make sure your router will not lose needed depth of cut.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - dlgWoodWork - 12-09-2015
I didn't think of the depth of cut part. Looks like I'm better off going with a plate.
Now it's off to find a good router plate.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - mbw - 12-09-2015
Thickness isn't a problem. Mount the router to a 1/2 mdf . Then cut a hole the shape of the router base in a 3/4 mdf. End result 1 1/4 thick top with only 1/2 inch at the bit.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - Pirate - 12-10-2015
Imho, the most important thing is not to tighten the height adjustment lock too much.
I've had to get replacements for broken parts on my 1700 router 5 times, in 3 years, with light use.
Love/hate relationship with that router.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - Ken Vick - 12-10-2015
You often see routers mounted without the removable plate in production shops. In one shop there were a number of router set up with commonly used bits such as a 1/8" roundover. Hal Taylor shows a router table with several routers with bits he uses a lot. These guys have routers dedicated to those bits and they don't have to worry about the size of the hole because they are not changing bits. It saves them a lot of money they would spend for plates and a lot of time because they don't waste time changing bits. Ken
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - Cooler - 12-10-2015
I read an article in a magazine (I cannot remember which now) where the writer said he preferred no insert. He simply reduced the thickness of the plywood with a router to accommodate the router itself. He claimed that this guaranteed that the router was flat and the base was parallel to the work surface.
It seemed like less work to install an insert. But if I were making a portable "table" (a sheet of plywood to rest on saw horses) I think I would do just that.
Re: Router table with no insert plate question - Ray Newman - 12-10-2015
DLG: please check your private messages, re Saw Stop. Thanks.