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For a 20 amp, 12-2 is sufficient.
I had been told that with the UF run overhead that a 10 was needed, along with the messenger cable. But, yeah, 10-2.
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Change one fuse to a 20 amp fuse, 12-2. Black to fuse, white to neutral buss or to that green conductor. Don't need the bare ground (but don't clip it.. Hate that, it removes future options)
Why don't I need the ground wire? What do I connect the ground wires to in the shed?
Nothing. The equipment ground conductor is designed to offer protection from stray current by offering an easy path to ground.
Your system does not have a grounded electrode to be used as an equipment ground. Until 2008 the NEC allowed you to land a ground wire on the neutral of a subpanel since they are tied together at the main. But that is problematic as there are many possibilities in its path to increase resistance. Old 3-wire systems are grandfathered in, but it is no longer allowed. The NEC allows grounded type receptacles in ungrounded systems if there is something else that protects you from a ground fault, a gfci receptacle.
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Immediately to a 20 amp gfci outlet in a big box
Black to line in, white to neutral line side
Again, don't I need something to the ground terminal on the GFCI and other outlets?
No, in fact, if using a gfci in lieu of an egc you are not allowed to connect a ground wire on any downstream device.
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Take those sticker labels from the package and place on each device.
Uh, what labels?
The gfci receptacle and all downstream devices must inform users there is no egc. Inside the package of the new gfci receptacles there will be a sheet of stickers.
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Does it hurt anything to keep one of the outlets on the pole? Hate to see that power available and not used. Switch both fuses to 20 amps.
Yeah, could do that.
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Just curious, do the currently installed receptacles have a ground wire? If so, where does it terminate in the fuse box? I'll assume it is wirenutted to that green wire.
I have to look at that after they take care of the boxes current residents. Yellow jackets chased me all over the place after I opened the box to snap the photos.
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Just thinking out loud here....Is it possible the electrician fused both the load and the neutral?
Anything is possible. Again, won't know until I can get near the boxes again.
Your following answer addressed this. It is the typical 3-wire 240 volt system from yesteryear. The green looks to be the neutral and the white is a phase hot. You may want to put colored tape on those: white on the green conductor and maybe black or red or blue on that white; both at the pole and in the main panel.
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Have you checked the main panel that feeds this pole? Was this a normally fused 240 volt 30 amp circuit, or did the electrician fool us and ran 120 volts to that pole and switched/fused both the load and neutral?
It's a 240v 30 amp breaker at the main panel.