Toilet Fill Problem

[Large Wooden Badger]

two of my four toilets began to leak today.  The split case on the top of the filler on both toilets began to spray out of the seams.

Wonder if we had a change in water pressure or something that caused them both to fail at the same time?

[crokett™]

It's not hitting the lid, it makes no difference whether the lid is there or not. There's probably some combination of set screw+rod bend that is the magic one that allows it to fill enough to flush but also shuts the water off. Several attempts over a couple days didn't find that combination. The fluid master replacement arrived today.

[Pirate]

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The problem I have with the Fluidmaster fill valves is the bleed water into the overflow is too aggressive, and a clogged trap will cause a bowl overflow by the time it shuts off.  The bowl fills and starts going over the high point in the trap, and keeps at that level for a while while the tank fills.  That's too much water into the bowl, with much of it being wasted.

I redirected the hose out of the overflow tube in the one toilet that has one, and it fills the tank much faster, but the bowl level is pretty low.  I may try adding a tee to that line, with the run portion going into the tank, and the stem into the overflow pipe.  I'm reluctant to restrict the flow, though, as the back pressure may blow the hose off the valve.
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 Our new to us house is on a septic system. I try to put as little water into it as possible.
I redirected the small tube so no water goes down the overflow tube. Now that water that was going down the drain, is filling the tank. 
The toilet flushes just as well, and saves water.
The toilet was a 1.5 gpf toilet.  Now it's a 1 gpf !  1/2 gallon was just going down the drain!
I've heard people say the toilet needs it to flush properly. Not my toilet. Seeing is believing. 
Try it.

[Roly]

They make a a adjustable flow device to prevent over filling the bowl.    LINK        Roly

[TDKPE]

They make a a adjustable flow device to prevent over filling the bowl.    LINK        Roly

That's it!  I didn't know they made that, but that's what I need.  And it's cheap.  And it has clamps, so I don't have to be concerned about the hose popping off from the extra pressure.  And it's in stock at my local HD.

I've had the hose diverted to drain into the tank, but the water level in the bowl is too low, though it did flush ok.  Saves water, too, since it's all going to filling the tank.  Filled noticably faster that way, too.    


Thanks for the link. 

[crokett™]

I replaced the valve assembly today with the fluid master. Aside from it actually shuts the water off, it is also much easier to adjust. Oh, and no trips to the plumbing store.

[MikeBob]

I replaced the valve assembly today with the fluid master.  Aside from it actually shuts the water off, it is also much easier to adjust.  Oh, and no trips to the plumbing store.

If you have really hard water/calcium every few months add a Table Spoon of Meradic acid  or a half gallon of Vinegar in the thank after a flush while filling.

[Large Wooden Badger]

Well mine just cost me $500.  The builder used corrugated supply line, when I moved it to replace the filler, it immediately started leaking.  Everything is soldered up so I can't just swap out the supply line.  $225 a toilet to have a new valve with threads soldered on.

One thing Dad never taught me was how to sweat a copper fitting.  I feel my man card is at risk.

[EricU]

if there weren't three trips to the store, you have violated a law of nature.  Not sure what the consequences are for that.

[crokett™]

Well mine just cost me $500.  The builder used corrugated supply line, when I moved it to replace the filler, it immediately started leaking.  Everything is soldered up so I can't just swap out the supply line.  $225 a toilet to have a new valve with threads soldered on.

Sharkbites.